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post #1 of 14
8/30/11 at 8:05pm
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OK, this has possibly been discussed to death, but may be worth re-visiting..

Suppose you want a cotton long-sleeve crew-neck garment...

You have 2 options:

http://www.berkcashmere.co.uk/product.php?id=110&name=Lineker

for approx. $150, cotton.

Or you can have this:

http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=5228&vid=1&pid=883400

for $20, also cotton.


For the record, I got the John Smedley Lineker....but let me just play Devil's advocate here to see if any insights emerge because they usually do....

What justifies the nearly eight-fold price difference?
In the end, is there a right answer to "One is worth more than the other"? Both have their advantages and disadvantages-- What do you base the choice on?
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post #2 of 14
8/30/11 at 8:21pm
Possible reasons depending on the designer:

1. Fabric
2. Cut
3. The aesthetic and how much you like it/can you find it any where else
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post #3 of 14
8/31/11 at 8:04am
http://www.esquire.co.uk/2011/08/the-importance-of-a-good-t-shirt/

All this applies to a long-sleeve T as well. Needless to say, the better the fabric, construction, and design, the higher the cost will be.
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post #4 of 14
8/31/11 at 9:26am
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Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post

http://www.esquire.co.uk/2011/08/the-importance-of-a-good-t-shirt/

All this applies to a long-sleeve T as well. Needless to say, the better the fabric, construction, and design, the higher the cost will be.


Do you agree with this article?
How the label is sewn on determines the quality of the rest of the stitching?


The last I saw, Brunello Cucinelli sews on its labels very flimsily, with just two stitches on the two long ends....easy to remove if you are so inclined.
George, from Walmart, has labels sewn on perfectly, with stitching identical to the rest of the t-shirt.

Does that mean George is better?

Some of these fashion articles really seem to have no idea what they are talking about.
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post #5 of 14
8/31/11 at 9:54am
Wrong place, as people here would rather cling to any kind of misplaced 'knowledge' they have of the construction and fit of a garment than to admit they've overpaid for it. As we all know, it's rather difficult to make a pattern for a long sleeved fucking tee shirt. This 'aesthetic' justification is particularly hilarious, because I'm sure the designer is tallying up the costs and right underneath 'bulk fabric' or 'pattern cutting' he slips in 'aesthetic' and plops in whatever number he feels comfortable/justified with.
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post #6 of 14
8/31/11 at 9:55am
So basically you cherry-picked one small point of the article and disregarded the rest? Good job.
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post #7 of 14
8/31/11 at 10:11am
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Originally Posted by Uncontrol View Post

So basically you cherry-picked one small point of the article and disregarded the rest? Good job.

So what's the conclusion? Did I over by buying the John Smedley Lineker for 150, rather than the Gap for 20?

Should I do a labelless, after one wash, fit/look test?
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post #8 of 14
8/31/11 at 11:07am
Did I just spend too much on a latté when I could have gotten a filtered coffee for 1/3 of the price?
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post #9 of 14
8/31/11 at 11:09am
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Originally Posted by miran View Post


So what's the conclusion? Did I over by buying the John Smedley Lineker for 150, rather than the Gap for 20?

Should I do a labelless, after one wash, fit/look test?

The conclusion is pay attention to the fabric, look at all the seams, make sure it sits on you symmetrically, etc. If it's worth the extra money to you then you didn't overpay, if it isn't then you did. But if you want some objective measure of value—like some imaginary metric of quality divided by cost, so you get quality per dollar—well it just doesn't exist. There are traits that make one garment better than another, but whether or not that better quality is worth the money to you or anyone else isn't something another person can decide.
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post #10 of 14
8/31/11 at 11:43am
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Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post


The conclusion is pay attention to the fabric, look at all the seams, make sure it sits on you symmetrically, etc. If it's worth the extra money to you then you didn't overpay, if it isn't then you did. But if you want some objective measure of value—like some imaginary metric of quality divided by cost, so you get quality per dollar—well it just doesn't exist. There are traits that make one garment better than another, but whether or not that better quality is worth the money to you or anyone else isn't something another person can decide.


If I do that, George from Wal-mart wins!

What am I doing wrong?
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post #11 of 14
8/31/11 at 11:54am
Haha. You may be doing nothing wrong. I'm willing to pay more for some things than for others, and cotton Ts, long or short-sleeve, are not one of those things that I'll spend a lot on. I'd probably go with George too since I don't particularly care if my Ts are super high quality.
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post #12 of 14
8/31/11 at 1:02pm
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John Smedley vs. GAP vs. George from WAL-MART


CUT:

JS: 8/10 - shoulder corner (where the seams meet) is a bit pointed...I am not too broad shouldered and it stands up like a point on me, not too elegant.
GAP: 9/10
George: 9.5/10

CHEST/WAIST FIT:

JS: 9/10
GAP: 8.5/10 (not quite as elegant as JS)
George: 7/10 (bizarre shape, hangs up over my ass).

SLEEVES:
JS: 8/10 (Too billowing)
GAP: 9/10
George: 10/10 Fucking perfect

Maiden voyage down the washing machine---this is where I am told JS will be the clear winner and George (if he survives disintegration) will come out like he's been hoisted up the Cape Hatteras lighthouse flagpole during the whole Irene weekend....I will have to report on this once I've done it...projected 1/10.....


QUALITY OF FABRIC-- This should really not be a consideration...because this is about fit more than anything else.

JOHN SMEDLEY: 9/10
GAP: 8/10
George: 2/10 ("cheap and chunky")


Anyways, back to fit---George wins! Something is not right!
Edited by miran - 8/31/11 at 1:12pm
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post #13 of 14
8/31/11 at 3:38pm
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Originally Posted by miran View Post


CHEST/WAIST FIT:

JS: 9/10
GAP: 8.5/10 (not quite as elegant as JS)
George: 7/10 (bizarre shape, hangs up over my ass).


Anyways, back to fit---George wins! Something is not right!

shut the fuck up dude.
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post #14 of 14
8/31/11 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by mike868y View Post


shut the fuck up dude.

But it's true though! It's horrifying me! That's why I'm here seeking help!

What am I doing wrong?
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