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post #31 of 60
9/11/11 at 12:04am
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Originally Posted by GQ1 View Post

Per my experience, UK width F fits a snug US width D.

How is that possible a UKF is identical to USA"E"?
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post #32 of 60
9/11/11 at 10:04am
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How is that possible a UKF is identical to USA"E"?

UK F is a standard width similar to US D.
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post #33 of 60
9/12/11 at 1:01am
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UK F is a standard width similar to US D.



UK F is a standard width similar to US E
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post #34 of 60
9/12/11 at 4:58am
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How is that possible a UKF is identical to USA"E"?

UK makers use different width designations. Most, such as Loake, Church's, and Cheaney, tend to use F as their standard width; some, such as Crockett & Jones, Edward Green, and Gaziano & Girling, use E instead. Still others, such as Tricker's, use their own system without letters (I think their D equivalent is 5...?).

Let's not even get started on whether they treat UK sizes as a full size or a half-size down from US size...
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post #35 of 60
9/12/11 at 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by dasai View Post


UK makers use different width designations. Most, such as Loake, Church's, and Cheaney, tend to use F as their standard width; some, such as Crockett & Jones, Edward Green, and Gaziano & Girling, use E instead. Still others, such as Tricker's, use their own system without letters (I think their D equivalent is 5...?).

Let's not even get started on whether they treat UK sizes as a full size or a half-size down from US size...

Please don't teach me to suck eggs....after 3000 posts
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post #36 of 60
9/15/11 at 5:53am
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Come on Bourbon wheres the review ?????

Here are some shitty pictures from my iPhone (sorry, camera is broken and I am at the office). The shoes came in yesterday (there were some Customs issues).

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Only had them for a day and am wearing them for the first time this morning, but my initial impressions are as follows:

Firstly the color on them is pretty interesting. It's more of a dark chocolate color that in certain lights almost appears black. I like this actually because it makes them easier to dress up and they stand out a bit from other monks IMO.

Secondly the 99 last is phenomenal. While I was nervous about the 348 on the C&J's and on the Herrings as well, the 99 last is the perfect amount of sleek. Cool enough to get noticed, yet not so sleek that it demands pants to compliment them.

The sole of the shoes almost look like a work of art. The wood finishing and pronounced waist made them hard to actually put on and scuff up.

The craftsmanship in these shoes is undeniable. Just handling the shoe and you know how much work went into making it. Trying it on reveals even more.

As I said this is only day 1 so as I wear them more I will try and post my impressions. However, this will have to do for a start.

Sorry again for the shit pictures. If you'd like to see some high quality photos you can check out the eBay auction page where I got them: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alfred-Sargent-Double-Monk-8-UK-/160642644913?pt=UK_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item25670c3bb1#ht_500wt_1116
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post #37 of 60
9/15/11 at 6:03am
Thanks for that Bourbon.
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post #38 of 60
9/15/11 at 6:08am
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Thanks for that Bourbon.

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post #39 of 60
9/20/11 at 2:04am
If anyone's looking to get a pair of lightly worn (worn 3 times) Shakespeare II in Redwood Calf in Size UK 9, shoot me a PM.

Although I did give good reviews, it's always losing out to my C&J Lowndes in terms of rotation for me... Checked the Herring site and it's not available til sometime October.
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post #40 of 60
9/21/11 at 6:53am
My Ramseys are not as dark brown as Bourbon's. Their colour is quite exactly the same as depicted on the newly opened AS website. The colour is very rich.

Ramsey is quite possibly the nicest non-high end dub monk in the market. Having owned Lowndes I can tell you that Ramsey looks better and is even more versatile.

To me Shakespeare looks very disappointing in the pics I have seen of it.
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post #41 of 60
9/21/11 at 7:03am
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My Ramseys are not as dark brown as Bourbon's. Their colour is quite exactly the same as depicted on the newly opened AS website. The colour is very rich.

Ramsey is quite possibly the nicest non-high end dub monk in the market. Having owned Lowndes I can tell you that Ramsey looks better and is even more versatile.

To me Shakespeare looks very disappointing in the pics I have seen of it.

I'm not 100% sure of the details but after talking to the eBay seller these were a custom order through AS using one of their darker (non burnished) leathers. A Fine Pair of Shoes has them in espresso and the the AS website has their more burnished look (as mentioned). Again I don't know the real story and my source is an eBay seller, but allegedly the leather on these was a custom job.

Either way I like the color and I agree with you Trifon, these shoes are incredible and a lot more impressive IMO than the C&Js.
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post #42 of 60
10/9/11 at 11:21pm
Hi all

So I just got a pair of Herring Shakespeare IIs in suede (pic below).

First impression out of the box was that they're very pointy in the toe. After wearing them for a day they don't seem so pointy anymore. FWIW, I've had this reaction to other shoes before--they seem weird looking at first, and then, after a short while, perfectly normal-looking.

Still, the last might be a little too elongated for jeans. Everything else about the shape is fine, great even, and the suede is a nice colour.

One other thing is that I'd prefer silvery buckles to brass-coloured ones. But this is of course minor.

I guess the obvious comparison with these is with C&J Lowndes. Would I love C&J Lowndes harder? Probably, everyone here loves C&J, I expect I'd be no different. But then, these are $300 shoes and C&Js are $400+ ($500 locally here in Oz), I'm no baller, and suede is suede. At the end of the day, I expect to be wearing these with pleasure for years to come.

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post #43 of 60
11/17/11 at 12:36pm
how is the sizing on these shoes?

i wear a 9d in allen edmonds and im thinking i might got with the UK8 in these considering the more aggressive last these are built on.

the outsole measurements were UK8 is 31.2 cm X 11 cm and the 8.5 is 31.8 cm X 11 cm.

also, it will cost about 290 after shipping and VAT, is this ia good pricepoint for these shoes?
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post #44 of 60
11/17/11 at 12:51pm
290 is spot on. I paid around 300 to have my Shakespeares shipped to CA. I wear a 9.5D and sized down to UK 8.5, and IMO, that's your best and really only option. My Shakes don't fit perfectly, but if I would have sized down to a UK 8, they would not have fit at all.
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post #45 of 60
11/17/11 at 2:21pm
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290 is spot on. I paid around 300 to have my Shakespeares shipped to CA. I wear a 9.5D and sized down to UK 8.5, and IMO, that's your best and really only option. My Shakes don't fit perfectly, but if I would have sized down to a UK 8, they would not have fit at all.

Just a nitpick, but if you wear a US9.5 and you buy a pair of shoes in UK8.5, that's not 'sizing down'. That's buying the exact same size.
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