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post #1141 of 1157
i might consider wearing JC on sale, but knowing that there's better shirts out there, and life is short - i'd rather just wear nicer shirting

plus ... that awkward moment when you walk past a dude wearing the same shirt as you - every other week...
post #1142 of 1157
^the way they describe their shirting, especially secret wash... just sounds dumb. but the obcd definitely are better than what i remember...
post #1143 of 1157
They do have some good shirts. Just few and far between. Last time I went in the store they probably had 80 different shirt options. I looked at all of them. Decided 2 were worth getting. Paid half price. No regrets.
post #1144 of 1157
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Originally Posted by ac_slater View Post

They do have some good shirts. Just few and far between. Last time I went in the store they probably had 80 different shirt options. I looked at all of them. Decided 2 were worth getting. Paid half price. No regrets.


+1

 

post #1145 of 1157
their vintage oxford shirts are basically a rip-off of BoO, for 1/5th of the price when on sale.
post #1146 of 1157

Does anyone have one of J. Crew's shirts in Large Slim? I'd like to get measurements for:

 

yoke
sleeve
pit-to-pit
back length

 

Was thinking about picking up a couple of the vintage oxfords. I don't have an actual J. Crew store anywhere near me.

post #1147 of 1157
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Originally Posted by shadrach View Post

their vintage oxford shirts are basically a rip-off of BoO, for 1/5th of the price when on sale.

BoO can be had for $70-100 which is a much better deal than anything J. Crew is offering, even when it's on sale to $20 or so
post #1148 of 1157
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Originally Posted by Newstyle View Post

I have the 484 slim fit cords and the are not very slim at all. For slim pants go else where.

That is entirely false. I mean no disrespect, but to say that, you must be VERY thin. The 484's are the slimmest I can go without being skinny and I am fairly average (I suppose my legs are a bit thicker proportionally because I'm short, but my legs are somewhere in the 21-22" range). Hell, I even size up on in the waist (I'm a 29 waist, measures a bit over 31 on Jcrew pants) to 30s to get a perfect fit.

The 484 slim fits from Jcrew are (in my opinion) a happy medium between the Levi's 511 and 514. They verge on the slimmest slim can be without being considered skinny.

So, I just think what you are saying is false. Unless you have very thin legs in comparison to your waist size I suppose, which is probably why you believe that "not very slim at all" is a true statement. I just don't want to see that misinformation spreading.
post #1149 of 1157

Can I ask advice on sizing for the 484 pants?  Are these vanity sized in the waist at all?  Just wondering if I should size down.

post #1150 of 1157
They are vanity sized. About 2.5" above the marked waist. I think most Jcrew pants are about 2.25" above. I generally wear size 29s in other Jcrew bottoms (chinos, shorts, etc.) and it works well for me as I measure 31" where I wear my pants/shorts. I'd say the 484s are a fairly standard rise. They won't be going up to your natural waist or anything, they'll likely settle on right above your hips. So measure that area where you'll be wearing your pants and size accordingly. If you find that you measure 30" then grab the 28 waist (31" 29 waist, 32" 30 waist, and so on... )

The other thing to note about the 484s is that IMO they are pretty slim. I tried 29s and they gripped my thighs and butt. The 30s gave me that extra inch or so of space that was much needed. So for me, with 21-22" thighs, I needed the 30s to get the right fit. A bit big (1") around the waist, but not a big deal.

I think if you have slightly smaller thighs/butt then myself, you'd find the fit a bit better. You should send an email to Jcrew asking for measurements, they can give detailed measurements which should help you out.

Let me know if there are any other specific questions on the fit... I personally love it. For me, it's the perfect amount of slimness with no gripping that some might favor, but I'll take the extra room any day. It's more comfortable and looks better IMO.
post #1151 of 1157
Looking to buy the Timex Andros watch if anyone want to sell them I am happy to buy it off you!
post #1152 of 1157
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Originally Posted by shadrach View Post

their vintage oxford shirts are basically a rip-off of BoO, for 1/5th of the price when on sale.

Yeah, let me know when BoO makes a shirt with an 18" neck and a 50" chest and I'll be all ears.

Actually, I've never been that impressed with BoO. I've always seen them as an overpriced J Crew, even after handling. J Crew, at $30-40 offers outstanding value, but my Gitman Bros at the same price point (on sale, Saks Fifth) are light years ahead in fabric quality, although the J Crew does fit me better. I'm at the point now that I have enough "beater" $30-40 shirts so it's going to be MTM from here on out. Seriously, for full price Gitman and the like, you can get a shirt made, to YOUR measurements, using the same if not better material, using the same if not better buttons, etc, but it might just take you a little longer to get them. I know Mauro over at WvG would LOVE to make you a shirt and if you have a tote, I don't see why anyone would choose OTR stuff that may or may not fit over MTM, and that's just Mauro. You can get cheaper shirts made from other MTM outlets, as well.

But it's your money. Don't be a brand whore.*

*I am a brand whore. frown.gif Epaulet pants, Alden boots, and soon to be WvG shirts, I think I'll be GTG.
post #1153 of 1157
BOO is overpriced but i disagree that it's merely an overpriced j crew

first, if you're short & skinny, which i happen to be, the cut/fit is exceptional. nothing comes close - not gitman, not j crew extra-slim - nothing. generally, i envy those w/ bulkier body types who are fortunate to pick "M" off the rack, but for them, BOO isn't going to do anything special

second, some of the patterns/fabrics are pretty nice. their batiste and broadcloth are both very good. the oxford shirting isn't anything special. i have some special fabric shirts (eg, Corduroy) and they're very good. they specialize in kooky vintage prints and i like it. pattern-wise, they're on par w/ gitman, but obviously j crew isn't even close to approaching BOO, creatively. actually, j crew just copies other current designers as a matter of business, so they shouldn't even be discussed here. but this is about j crew after all, and ive had shirts of theirs in various fabrics, and it all feels like crumply paper, and the buttons are big, non-descript, cheapy plastic, and there aren't really any fun details to speak of. and when they do do 'fun' patterns, it's usually terrible, like an oversized gingham workshirt in mango/purple

that said, i do kind of like this j crew shirt from s/s 12 but the fit on the model looks absolutely terrible

365

and i think that's the only j crew shirt that's ever really drawn my interest

third, BOO has an intangible factor that makes it "cool". it's not particularly exclusive or anything - i mean, it can be found everywhere and on sale, but the brand is really well-established and marketed well. if you lean toward a 'vintage' look, then a lot of BOO pieces will fall easily into your wardrobe, and that's where i am. i think j crew is more "dad cool" or "mom cool" unfortunately, and they definitely err on the side of caution w/ their mens' marketing. i mean, i think they blatantly have stuff like "style tips" and "10 ways to dress up casual fridays" and stuff like that, and while we all like to pretend that we're above the mind-control of marketing, it just rubs me the wrong way w/ its hokey-pokey, "average joe" image that sort of seethes w/ this self-conscious uncool-ness

now j crew is what it is, and i don't want to discredit it too much - i mean, i have j crew pieces in my regular rotation as i'm sure most of us do. but i think it deserves a fair share of criticism, especially b/c it blatantly copies current designers and b/c of its annoying disingenuous marketing and business practices
Edited by aaaeeeiiiooouuu - 2/22/12 at 10:15pm
post #1154 of 1157

hi, im 5'7" do you think a xs or small size will fit me?

post #1155 of 1157
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Originally Posted by Luis Haro View Post

hi, im 5'7" do you think a xs or small size will fit me?



 

XS.  I'm 5'9", 150 lbs. and I take a regular XS, so you might try a slim XS...?

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