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Are you looking to stay japanese or branch out? What is available around you? Which style of japanese (sherried or peaty/smoky or light fruity)?
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Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post

looking to get a friend a nice bottle for around $100, he usually favors Japanese stuff, any suggestions?

Yamazaki 12 is probably your most solid bet at that price point, unless he likes peat in which case the Hakushu 12 would be around 80. I think they are both better than the Hibiki 12 and I think these would make a better gift than the NAS or 12YO Nikkas. If you can't find them at these prices shoot me a pm and I'll put you in contact with a guy should be able get it to you for that.
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Yamazaki 12 is probably your most solid bet at that price point, unless he likes peat in which case the Hakushu 12 would be around 80. I think they are both better than the Hibiki 12 and I think these would make a better gift than the NAS or 12YO Nikkas. If you can't find them at these prices shoot me a pm and I'll put you in contact with a guy should be able get it to you for that.

Fuck I remember when both those bottles were around $50, fuck me.
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Are you looking to stay japanese or branch out? What is available around you? Which style of japanese (sherried or peaty/smoky or light fruity)?

I have access to most Japanese whiskeys, k&l liquer and bevmo. He likes all sorts of whiskeys so it's a little difficult to pick out. He def like those cool anniversary suntory dragon bottles but those are pricey.
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Fuck I remember when both those bottles were around $50, fuck me.
X1000
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X1000

so anything a bit more rare and interesting you can think of, it doesn't need to be $100 could be a bit more.
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Not japanese but the new Kavalan soloist?
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Not japanese but the new Kavalan soloist?
the Vhino barrique is supposedly good but that's more like 150+. If you are willing to do that I would second jcman's suggestion based on what I've heard. I just ordered a few bottles myself.
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Not japanese but the new Kavalan soloist?

I tried the one that won all the awards but don't remember being thrilled about it. I did like hakushu.
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There was one I got that was better bang for the buck. I think it was the port finshed concertmaster. Not great, but decent for the $80 or so.
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If Kavalan, I prefer the "regular" single cask bourbon or sherry offerings but would only buy at the duty free price
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Bourbon cask?
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My (probably) only major haul of the year. Everything else is usually more daily dram category.

This is what I got 2 bottles of for my twins when they were born. It was bottled about 2 weeks after their birth. Probably nothing spectacular but hopefully cool enough that I can share a drink with them when they get old enough.



This stuff looks awesome. Im always a fan of non peated Amrut. No age statement but the details show it is 4 years old. Amazingly enough 42% of the spirit was lost in maturation.



Had this one a couple times before. Got some of my non single malt friends hooked on this stuff.



Replenishing my supply of this. One of my tops.



This looks to be an interesting animal. It was cheap but limited to 1 bottle per customer. confused.gif Notes look great. A fruit bomb. We'll see if I open it anytime soon or sit on it for a while.

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About that 4 year 43% loss (I'm assuming because of heat?), it reminds me of how Laphroaig Quarter Cask is only like 6 years or something but because of the cask size it 'matures' quicker. So there's a case to be made for moving away from age statements because so many factors can influence the taste and a simple number of years statement is such a weak indicator. It's like using chest size, one single number, to fit a suit. Makes no sense. I was originally really against the practice of dropping age statements but I'm understanding how it's just a bad metric that gets in the way. If the juice tastes good, who cares. I mean you can char the barrel longer, drop in staves, put it in a hot storage facility on a higher rack, I dunno, basically a million things can change the flavor and number of years in the barrel is one indicator, but shouldn't be the only one. I don't know if I told this anecdote before when we were discussing this subject a few months back but I was at the DF and overheard a youngish girl talking to the SA there and she wanted to buy a gift, but her discussion was led by 'I want to spend between X and Y dollars' and I want to get a 'X year bottle'. So she kept asking the guy, well I want to buy a 16 year Scotch, so who makes a good one. I know you gotta roll with something but I mean damn, the guy didn't even bother explaining about the general regions or the idea that there are a few different 'styles' of Scotch and that the year or price can be found within any of them. She just wanted a 'well known brand name' at 'x price' with 'x years' on it. And as a manufacturer, sure, you're up against those kind of consumers here and there, but maybe just maybe stick the age statement on the back somewhere, and the posted price point issue is unavoidable, and focus more on describing what the actual bottle tastes like or sampling program, or sales person education, or flavor maps, I dunno. But the whole business has become about fancy bottle shapes, special editions, and big bold numbers of years aged on the front label and it's all a big distraction from the only thing that actually counts, the stuff inside. Goddamn I'm becoming an old man.
Edited by Master-Classter - 3/12/16 at 9:43pm
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Absolutely.

Ive previously said Im surprised there hasnt been some sort of partnerships between Scotland and India or Australia (like distill in Scotland and age elsewhere). I would really care less about age statements then.

Its also funny reading reviews of stuff bottled in the 50s, 60s, and 70s that was 12 yo or younger. Most of those still review pretty well. I should say recent reviews of those old bottles.
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I love reading through this thread, so much to learn. I mention that as I've been searching through it for opinions on Oban Distiller's Edition. I was gifted a bottle of the 2012 about 2 years ago but I have never opened it. It's been sitting with all my overflow stock in my basement liquor cabinet**

I am trying to get an idea of what to expect upon opening. If it doesn't end up sounding like it will be my thing I will regift wink.gif
Thoughts/opinions?





**side note: surprisingly, this cabinet in my basement is pretty effectively temperature controlled by the earth directly on the other side of the wall. When we bought the house, the previous owner mentioned the cabinet making an excellent liquor cabinet for that reason. He was not lying. During the hottest summer days and coldest winter nights the temperature is between 50-60F due to being against the wall; yes I did place a small thermometer in there to check. It's an ugly cabinet but it's what's inside that counts anyways.
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