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post #541 of 1313
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Originally Posted by Thanks SF (a new me) View Post

I need another Charlie and Dawn creation...Winchester quick release OR Stirrup buckle are intriguing, but not offered in 1 3/4 width (only with West End)....Charlie, any plans on a double-ring variety?

We have made double ring belts in the past, they work but bridle leather is quite dense for them when its new but fine when its broken in a bit. Drop me a pm and we can sort out a plan Im sure :-)

Sadly there arent a lot of buckle available in 1 3/4" - the foundry we use don't make a lot of the patterns in that size which is a shame. The West End is a really nice buckle in that width though if you do want one, not as interesting as the two you mention maybe but the proportions and construction are really nice. We can also get a 1 3/4" Brass West End Roller for a slightly more casual look I think - still not what you were after though I appreciate!


Charlie
post #542 of 1313

Got this one about a year ago, probably wear it a couple of days per week:

 

 

Oak Brown Bakers Bridle
1 1/4 Nickel West End
Buckle Finish: Satin Finish
 
Just got this in the mail:

 

West End Bridle Leather Belt
Colour: Dark Havanna
1 1/4 inch in Nickel
Buckle Finish: Polished Finish
 
I only have good things to say about the belts and dealing with and buying from Equus
post #543 of 1313
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Originally Posted by NiceToHave View Post

Got this one about a year ago, probably wear it a couple of days per week:





Oak Brown Bakers Bridle
1 1/4 Nickel West End
Buckle Finish: Satin Finish
 
Just got this in the mail:




West End Bridle Leather Belt
Colour: Dark Havanna
1 1/4 inch in Nickel
Buckle Finish: Polished Finish
 
I only have good things to say about the belts and dealing with and buying from Equus

Thank you :-) glad you like them.

Really nice to see the Oak Brown doing well still

Charlie
post #544 of 1313
hey Charlie!

got question regarding my russet Baker's Oak belt. what can i do to condition the backside of the belt? i would like it to have similar finish as the black Sedgwick bridle belt i got from you.

tnx in advance.
post #545 of 1313
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Originally Posted by IIIrd Icon View Post

hey Charlie!

got question regarding my russet Baker's Oak belt. what can i do to condition the backside of the belt? i would like it to have similar finish as the black Sedgwick bridle belt i got from you.

tnx in advance.

Hi! Thats a tough one, the Russet is a pretty different thing than the Sedgwick, much more leather in the raw and a different back because it has been thinned at the tannery to a much lesser degree than the Sedgwick. I find the Sedgwick leather feed does wonders for the Russet, it helps it age well and it certainly helps keep the flesh side dense and nice. Thats still not very similar to the Sedgwick flesh side but probably as close as you'll get I think.

Worth saying the Bakers Oak Brown is like a refined version of the Russet, the back is fully finished like the Sedgwick is and whilst its darker in colour than the Russet is it ages just as well. Not helpful in the context of your belt but if you or anyone else wants a more "bridley" russet the Oak Brown is probably just right

Sorry not to be much help!

Charlie
post #546 of 1313

My Equus order arrived today and I couldn't be happier! West End in burgundy 1 3/8" and Russet Bakers in 1 1/2". They really are works of art. My only regret is why I waited so long to buy them.

 

A few quick images (midday sun is far from ideal conditions). The grain on the Russet is stunning and get a load of how thick it is! That's a US dime for reference. You really have to view them in full size.

 

Thanks Charlie, it was a pleasure.

 

 

 

 

 

post #547 of 1313
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

My Equus order arrived today and I couldn't be happier! West End in burgundy 1 3/8" and Russet Bakers in 1 1/2". They really are works of art. My only regret is why I waited so long to buy them.

A few quick images (midday sun is far from ideal conditions). The grain on the Russet is stunning and get a load of how thick it is! That's a US dime for reference. You really have to view them in full size.

Thanks Charlie, it was a pleasure.













Pleased you like them :-)

Charlie
post #548 of 1313

After a very good experience dealing with Dawn to get leather and buckle samples I'm now about to press the button on what I expect to be the first of quite a few belts but there's one issue I'd like to kick around a bit before going ahead, namely the number of holes to specify. I know that the standard is 7 but I don't really understand, at least for fairly slim guys, why there need to be so many. I've been thinking a bit about how to do the holes and I wonder whether anyone else has given this much thought and what Charlie's thoughts are given all that he's seen from his customer requests.

 

The following is a lot of thinking out loud but here is the way that some of my thinking has been going...

 

I'm a 30" waist and have been for about the last 30 years. I really am quite slim so if I sized 30" on the middle hole of seven then that would leave me with the ability to tighten my belt down to a 27" waist. If I ever got down to that waist size then I'd have far more to worry about than my belt being too big because I can only think that I would get that small due to an end-stage terminal illness plus a 7-hole belt on the tightest fitting would probably look quite unbalanced with far too much of the end flapping about so I'd want to replace it anyway. I'm struggling to see the point of having more than one or maybe two holes on the further-tightening side of the measuring hole.

 

For the expansion side of the measuring hole it's a bit more difficult to judge but with the standard 3 holes of expansion that would let me go up to 33" waist and I don't think I've ever been much above 31.5" so I'm thinking that I might only specify 2 expansion holes. This also gives me an added incentive to not let myself get completely out of shape.

 

The above is leading me towards specifying 4 holes with the third one from the tip being the measuring hole and leaving me one tightening hole and two expansion holes but then I started wondering about tighter hole spacing to give finer adjustability.

 

I'm thinking that it might look a bit odd to have uneven hole spacing (if that's even something that Equus would do) so the possibility of having some more tightly spaced holes surrounding the measuring hole (e.g. a tightening and expansion hole 0.5" either side of the measuring hole and then 0.75" or 1" holes after that) might not be a great idea. Also, if one's size changes and the main hole being used moves away from the measuring hole then some or all of the benefit is lost.

 

Next, what about doing all the spacing on 0.75" holes? On my 4-hole setup that would give me 0.75" of tightening and 1.5" of expansion? Maybe a bit marginal on the expansion capability and would even 0.75" spacing look a bit odd? All my current belts are 1" spacing and that also means that on many of them the second expansion hole is exactly hidden under the keeper so there really only ends up with one hole being visible between the keeper and the buckle.

 

And finally, what are the options/possibilities of punching extra holes in an existing belt, either oneself or, at a price, by returning it to Equus Leather so that they can use whatever tool or machine is used to punch the original neat holes? This would certainly give an emergency option if I needed to tighten a belt below a 29" waist (although even at under 29" I suspect that would imply that I had pretty serious health problems). It might also give an option, if I did ever fall between two of the holes, to insert an intermediate hole, at least if the original spacing is at 1".

 

So, after all the to-ing and fro-ing above I'm still coming down to a 4-hole configuration with the measuring hole, one hole to tighten and two holes for expansion.

 

Has anyone else gone through the same agonising about the hole configuration and, if so, where did you end up. I'm especially interested in small/slim peoples thoughts. (As mentioned, I'm a 30" waist and I maintain a pretty constant 135 lbs weight.)

 

- Julian

post #549 of 1313
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Originally Posted by JulianL View Post

 

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So, after all the to-ing and fro-ing above I'm still coming down to a 4-hole configuration with the measuring hole, one hole to tighten and two holes for expansion.

 

Has anyone else gone through the same agonising about the hole configuration and, if so, where did you end up. I'm especially interested in small/slim peoples thoughts. (As mentioned, I'm a 30" waist and I maintain a pretty constant 135 lbs weight.)

 

- Julian

Hi Julian,

 

Normally one would opt for an odd number of holes so that one can buckle to the middle hole, which means you've judged your belt length requirement perfectly. It is quite commonplace to opt for a 5 hole configuration rather than a 7 with a shorter belt I believe.

 

The ideal length will see an inch or two of belt extend past the first belt loop after the buckle. I have 7 holes on my belt and have a 31" waist or so. Although I'd never likely need the first or last hole, I don't find them to detract from the look of the belt. I would probably consider doing it again without those holes though and only 5 instead.

 

Also, punching additional holes is no problem.

post #550 of 1313
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Originally Posted by JulianL View Post

After a very good experience dealing with Dawn to get leather and buckle samples I'm now about to press the button on what I expect to be the first of quite a few belts but there's one issue I'd like to kick around a bit before going ahead, namely the number of holes to specify. I know that the standard is 7 but I don't really understand, at least for fairly slim guys, why there need to be so many. I've been thinking a bit about how to do the holes and I wonder whether anyone else has given this much thought and what Charlie's thoughts are given all that he's seen from his customer requests.

The following is a lot of thinking out loud but here is the way that some of my thinking has been going...

I'm a 30" waist and have been for about the last 30 years. I really am quite slim so if I sized 30" on the middle hole of seven then that would leave me with the ability to tighten my belt down to a 27" waist. If I ever got down to that waist size then I'd have far more to worry about than my belt being too big because I can only think that I would get that small due to an end-stage terminal illness plus a 7-hole belt on the tightest fitting would probably look quite unbalanced with far too much of the end flapping about so I'd want to replace it anyway. I'm struggling to see the point of having more than one or maybe two holes on the further-tightening side of the measuring hole.

For the expansion side of the measuring hole it's a bit more difficult to judge but with the standard 3 holes of expansion that would let me go up to 33" waist and I don't think I've ever been much above 31.5" so I'm thinking that I might only specify 2 expansion holes. This also gives me an added incentive to not let myself get completely out of shape.

The above is leading me towards specifying 4 holes with the third one from the tip being the measuring hole and leaving me one tightening hole and two expansion holes but then I started wondering about tighter hole spacing to give finer adjustability.

I'm thinking that it might look a bit odd to have uneven hole spacing (if that's even something that Equus would do) so the possibility of having some more tightly spaced holes surrounding the measuring hole (e.g. a tightening and expansion hole 0.5" either side of the measuring hole and then 0.75" or 1" holes after that) might not be a great idea. Also, if one's size changes and the main hole being used moves away from the measuring hole then some or all of the benefit is lost.

Next, what about doing all the spacing on 0.75" holes? On my 4-hole setup that would give me 0.75" of tightening and 1.5" of expansion? Maybe a bit marginal on the expansion capability and would even 0.75" spacing look a bit odd? All my current belts are 1" spacing and that also means that on many of them the second expansion hole is exactly hidden under the keeper so there really only ends up with one hole being visible between the keeper and the buckle.

And finally, what are the options/possibilities of punching extra holes in an existing belt, either oneself or, at a price, by returning it to Equus Leather so that they can use whatever tool or machine is used to punch the original neat holes? This would certainly give an emergency option if I needed to tighten a belt below a 29" waist (although even at under 29" I suspect that would imply that I had pretty serious health problems). It might also give an option, if I did ever fall between two of the holes, to insert an intermediate hole, at least if the original spacing is at 1".

So, after all the to-ing and fro-ing above I'm still coming down to a 4-hole configuration with the measuring hole, one hole to tighten and two holes for expansion.

Has anyone else gone through the same agonising about the hole configuration and, if so, where did you end up. I'm especially interested in small/slim peoples thoughts. (As mentioned, I'm a 30" waist and I maintain a pretty constant 135 lbs weight.)

- Julian

Hi Julian,

The reason we go for the default option is for 7 holes is simply for longevity. Ideally I'd like you still to be wearing the belt you buy in a decade or two, so we provide enough adjustment to make that realistic. The reason we make each belt individually though is so we can vary what we do to suit the individual and its absolutely fine and a good thing to reconfigure the belts if that makes them suit what you want to do better, we just try to provide a safe set of defaults for you.

Regarding the specifics personally I think an odd number of holes with the centre hole (you cant have a centre hole given an even number of holes) centred at the size you want is the nicest configuration and with the holes spaced at an interval to suit. For eg 5 holes at either 1" or 3/4" might be a good choice - aesthetically pleasing, quite granular at 3/4" and still a reasonable amount of adjustment. If you want something more exotic thats completely fine though. For reference I'm a very similar size to you and tend to have 7 holes in my belts and thats worked out well for me. I started running marathons last year and would have shrunk out of nearly all my belts if they didnt have a decent range of holes - to be fair they could happily have been shortened or had more holes punched though.

Re alterations, we can certainly punch more holes (we do it by hand) after the fact, thats one of the good things about hand making, alterations and repairs are easy.

I hope thats some help! The key point is its your belt and we'll make you whatever you want

Charlie
post #551 of 1313
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Couple of quick photos of suede as promised. This is Tobacco coloured inside out Polo suede, designed to be used for the flaps of polo saddles, 4mm - rather nice I think




As ever very happy to send samples of any and all of our leathers if you'd like a look first hand, just drop me a PM with your details and we'll put a sample pack in the post for you for free, anywhere in the world.

Charlie
Edited by Equus Leather - 5/17/13 at 8:03am
post #552 of 1313
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Originally Posted by JulianL View Post

After a very good experience dealing with Dawn to get leather and buckle samples I'm now about to press the button on what I expect to be the first of quite a few belts but there's one issue I'd like to kick around a bit before going ahead, namely the number of holes to specify. I know that the standard is 7 but I don't really understand, at least for fairly slim guys, why there need to be so many. I've been thinking a bit about how to do the holes and I wonder whether anyone else has given this much thought and what Charlie's thoughts are given all that he's seen from his customer requests.

 

The following is a lot of thinking out loud but here is the way that some of my thinking has been going...

 

I'm a 30" waist and have been for about the last 30 years. I really am quite slim so if I sized 30" on the middle hole of seven then that would leave me with the ability to tighten my belt down to a 27" waist. If I ever got down to that waist size then I'd have far more to worry about than my belt being too big because I can only think that I would get that small due to an end-stage terminal illness plus a 7-hole belt on the tightest fitting would probably look quite unbalanced with far too much of the end flapping about so I'd want to replace it anyway. I'm struggling to see the point of having more than one or maybe two holes on the further-tightening side of the measuring hole.

 

For the expansion side of the measuring hole it's a bit more difficult to judge but with the standard 3 holes of expansion that would let me go up to 33" waist and I don't think I've ever been much above 31.5" so I'm thinking that I might only specify 2 expansion holes. This also gives me an added incentive to not let myself get completely out of shape.

 

The above is leading me towards specifying 4 holes with the third one from the tip being the measuring hole and leaving me one tightening hole and two expansion holes but then I started wondering about tighter hole spacing to give finer adjustability.

 

I'm thinking that it might look a bit odd to have uneven hole spacing (if that's even something that Equus would do) so the possibility of having some more tightly spaced holes surrounding the measuring hole (e.g. a tightening and expansion hole 0.5" either side of the measuring hole and then 0.75" or 1" holes after that) might not be a great idea. Also, if one's size changes and the main hole being used moves away from the measuring hole then some or all of the benefit is lost.

 

Next, what about doing all the spacing on 0.75" holes? On my 4-hole setup that would give me 0.75" of tightening and 1.5" of expansion? Maybe a bit marginal on the expansion capability and would even 0.75" spacing look a bit odd? All my current belts are 1" spacing and that also means that on many of them the second expansion hole is exactly hidden under the keeper so there really only ends up with one hole being visible between the keeper and the buckle.

 

And finally, what are the options/possibilities of punching extra holes in an existing belt, either oneself or, at a price, by returning it to Equus Leather so that they can use whatever tool or machine is used to punch the original neat holes? This would certainly give an emergency option if I needed to tighten a belt below a 29" waist (although even at under 29" I suspect that would imply that I had pretty serious health problems). It might also give an option, if I did ever fall between two of the holes, to insert an intermediate hole, at least if the original spacing is at 1".

 

So, after all the to-ing and fro-ing above I'm still coming down to a 4-hole configuration with the measuring hole, one hole to tighten and two holes for expansion.

 

Has anyone else gone through the same agonising about the hole configuration and, if so, where did you end up. I'm especially interested in small/slim peoples thoughts. (As mentioned, I'm a 30" waist and I maintain a pretty constant 135 lbs weight.)

 

- Julian

 

 For what it's worth, I asked for the spacing on my belts to be at 3/4" for a finer unit of adjustment. I think it looks just fine. 

post #553 of 1313
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Originally Posted by Equus Leather View Post

Couple of quick photos of suede as promised. This is Tobacco coloured inside out Polo suede, designed to be used for the flaps of polo saddles, 4mm - rather nice I think




As ever very happy to send samples of any and all of our leathers if you'd like a look first hand, just drop me a PM with your details and we'll put a sample pack in the post for you for free, anywhere in the world.

Charlie

OMG Amazing

Pricing on these Charlie?
Edited by justinkapur - 5/17/13 at 10:06pm
post #554 of 1313
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Originally Posted by Equus Leather View Post

Couple of quick photos of suede as promised. This is Tobacco coloured inside out Polo suede, designed to be used for the flaps of polo saddles, 4mm - rather nice I think




As ever very happy to send samples of any and all of our leathers if you'd like a look first hand, just drop me a PM with your details and we'll put a sample pack in the post for you for free, anywhere in the world.

Charlie


Wow.

post #555 of 1313
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OMG Amazing

Pricing on these Charlie?

:-) Thanks! Pricing is TBC but I think we're looking at about £66 inc VAT for the Europeans or £55 for the rest of the world. I'll get them on the website over the net few days and let the forum know when they are up

Charlie
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