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post #1 of 15
8/9/11 at 9:01pm
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i know these are banned in the US now but does anyone have any idea where i can source them without dealing with shady online shops?

i live in boston but am willing to go to NY to grab these. More specifically the djarum super black menthols. any help and insight is very much appreciated.!
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post #2 of 15
8/12/11 at 12:49am
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Originally Posted by polarcreamsoda View Post

these are banned in the US

Wait...what?
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post #3 of 15
8/12/11 at 1:51am
You must be thinking of clove ciggies
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post #4 of 15
8/12/11 at 5:38am
Thread Starter 
yeah, my bad. i wasnt too clear in my original post. will edit now
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post #5 of 15
8/12/11 at 7:27am
Ok, I get it. Although I admit that for a moment it seemed entirely possible to me that cloves are the next thing on an international blacklist of food (just like sheep innards, duck skin or tonk a beans).
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post #6 of 15
8/12/11 at 4:48pm
Are tonka beans forbidden in the US?
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post #7 of 15
8/12/11 at 6:09pm
Clove cigarettes are banned, but not clove cigars. They get around the ban by the lax definition of a cigar, which involved them keeping the cigarette size and changing the paper. Same shit, different name. Djarum has them also.
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post #8 of 15
8/13/11 at 11:55am
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Originally Posted by b1os View Post

Are tonka beans forbidden in the US?

I don't know (I am living in Germany), but they are regarded as "highly dangerous" in some countries.
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post #9 of 15
8/13/11 at 12:20pm
Well, logically, woodruff, or e.g. nutmeg, therefore have to be forbidden, too. Tonka beans have a unique flavour and as many spices shouldn't be consumed in a large amount. But I see, in Germany they were also forbidden and now only are allowed in limited amounts in food.
Does anyone know how much coumarin tonga beans contain?
This reminds me that I still have a chocolate bar flavoured with tonka beans.
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post #10 of 15
8/14/11 at 6:09pm
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

Clove cigarettes are banned, but not clove cigars. They get around the ban by the lax definition of a cigar, which involved them keeping the cigarette size and changing the paper. Same shit, different name. Djarum has them also.

what this guy said. Go to any tobacco shop and you should be able to find Djarum blacks, and other flavors of Clove 'cigars'
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post #11 of 15
8/14/11 at 8:55pm
why are they banned?
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post #12 of 15
8/14/11 at 9:38pm
huh, just based on this thread I started reading around and found a local shop that carries Djuram Blacks and picked up a pack on Sat. Have smoked a few, they're interesting. strong, but smooth. gave me a helluva headache though, and I felt a bit nauseous, but whatever.
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post #13 of 15
8/14/11 at 9:52pm
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Originally Posted by Nosu3 View Post

why are they banned?

It was either because they appealed to younger wannabe smokers or that the cloves anesthetized the wind pipe, allow for a deeper and more dangerous hit of tobacco.
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post #14 of 15
8/15/11 at 9:19am
wrong thread
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post #15 of 15
8/15/11 at 9:21am
This is a healthy cigarette.
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