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Originally Posted by chronoguy View Post

I know it is not a repro Knoll. Pretty much all the button down tuft style midcentury modern sofas are some derivative rip-off design of Florence Knolls original sofa design.
The "knoll style sofa", the ELO, and the cow-hide rug screams, I am doing MCM (Mid Century Modern).

I actually prefer your no-name Danish pieces as they are much more genuine. It doesn't have to be brand name. What matter is the quality and if you like the general design.
For example, the Silberg Executive desk you have. I would pair it with a Knoll Charles Pollock chair. You can find a real one for $250 and it will look 10000x better than if you paired it with a $200 reproduction Eames Aluminun Group (or Softpad) exec task chair. Stay away from apartment therapy, Houzz, and pinterests and you may find some original ideas.
I've been wondering who made the desk! The only mark I can find on it is "made in Denmark". How did you figure out that it's a Silberg desk? Also, I am dying over that chair right now. SEXY is all I can say. Just looked up pricing and new it is going for almost 2 grand. Where can I find one for $250?
And do you blame me for loving the sofa, cowhide and lounge chair? I know they are overused but I can't help it. Maybe they aren't so unique anymore but until I get sick of them, they're staying. I'm not really into apartment therapy; my favorite blog is thebrickhouse. She isn't a millionaire and she's got cool ideas. And plus, she is frickin hilarious. smile.gif
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But who says they're "authentic authorized pieces" Herman Miller itself trying to protect their own products? Even though the patents have long since expired on Eames chairs, and any company can legally make the things now. But they can't call them "Eames", because AFAIK and IANAL that is a registered trademark.

I'm not an expert of trade-dress laws. But I do know this. If you have a product, regardless of what it is called, and have a picture of Ray and Charles Eames next to it in your advertisement. That is trade-dress. An attempt to mislead and confuse consumers pure and simple. They're basically using 60 years of someone else's lineage and pedigree to sell their wares. Trade-dress laws protect that in most Western 1st world countries.

All those major website retailers have full on bios of all the various designers to each product. A majority of them do in fact call their products by their names - Nelson Bench. Noguchi Table, Eames Lounge and Ottoman but use the "reproduction" as the qualifier.

Most designs are somewhat derivative of each other. I haven't seen anything remotely original in years. Take a look at the major name brands in the US. Crate and Barrel sells an Eames "inspired" task chair and an Eames inspired "retro rocker" Restoration Hardware sells clones of Arne Jacobsen egg chairs and Emeco naval chairs. None of them use the original designers in their advertisements. And they are often not 100% shameless copies. I'm somewhat agnostic to them.

I know in China there are shops that sell clothing with Apple logos. I've even seen Blu-ray and DVD logos on dress shirts in Asia. So the laws are lax there. That stuff doesn't fly in the western world.

Ans yes, Herman Miller, in my opinion, should co-own the rights to the Lounge Chair. It was under George Nelson's Art Direction and Herman Miller's retainer of the Eames. The ELO was launched and sold by Herman Miller from the get-go. I can't say that for Vitra which is a different story but Herman Miller and Eames go hand in hand. The very first ELO and until the Eames passing, was always made by Herman Miller and no one else. So yes, they do feel the need to aggressively protect those license trademarks under the blessing of the Eames estate.
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So basically its another shitty romance novel with a bit of rumpy pumpy thats gone viral not due to it being good but because women spread the word. A bit like the Oprah touch. Say it and they will buy it.
Probably. I think there are a lot of girls out there that are bored sexually and they think that pain and bondage is exciting. And since everyone is talking about that book right now, it's a must read. Lemmings.
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Originally Posted by Brittany Paris View Post

Also, I am dying over that chair right now. SEXY is all I can say. Just looked up pricing and new it is going for almost 2 grand. Where can I find one for $250?

Etsy. Craigslist. Ebay.
I picked up a few for $200. Just requires patience. I get them in full Vicenza black leather.

Steelcase makes a knock-off clone of the Pollock chair as well.

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I've been wondering who made the desk! The only mark I can find on it is "made in Denmark". How did you figure out that it's a Silberg desk?

I bought one at an Estate sale a while back for $100. It looks exactly like that which I later sold for a nice profit.
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Originally Posted by chronoguy View Post

Etsy. Craigslist. Ebay.
I picked up a few for $200. Just requires patience. I get them in full Vicenza black leather.

Steelcase makes a knock-off clone of the Pollock chair as well.

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Wow. Who needs 50 shades with that chair. Lol
Thanks for the pic, now I won't be able to sleep tonight. wink.gif I will definitely be scouring CL and Etsy. I haven't had any real luck with eBay lately but will try that too.
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I bought one at an Estate sale a while back for $100. It looks exactly like that which I later sold for a nice profit.
Yeah, estate sales scare me. That's how I got the brasilia headboard. It was a complete bedroom set with the gentleman's dresser and everything and I was the first one in but some douche ran in with "hold for douche" masking tape and claimed them before I could grab them. Only piece I was able to get was the headboard. I got there at 5am and it started at 10am. It was winter and I had to wait in a line outside for hours. Haven't been to one since. frown.gif
Glad you had better luck though. And $100 is insane.
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Originally Posted by chronoguy View Post

Etsy. Craigslist. Ebay.
I picked up a few for $200. Just requires patience. I get them in full Vicenza black leather.

There's usually a lot of them on ebay (at least here in europe).
post #369 of 730
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Originally Posted by Brittany Paris View Post

You know what I think? I think we should all just accept one another and realize that there is no point in outing one another down. What a waste of time! Let's all be uplifting and support others' decisions, whether it be buying a replica or the real thing!!!

Shut the fuck up, loser.
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Originally Posted by Brittany Paris View Post


Now going back to this girl's decor. I would have never bought a reproduction/fake/knock-off ELO. That is just me.

For $$1200-1500 or whatever RoveConcept charges, I would have gotten something else. Once you go past that $1K threshold, there are so many other choices. I would spend a few bucks more for something genuine.
If I didn't have the fund to buy a real ELO, I would get a pair of real Eames LCW

I have two of these myself and personally speaking. I am more impressed with the workmanship and the wow factor of the LCW. When you handle one, sit on one, lived with one, you will be impressed. At any angle, it is drop dead sexy. I scored two of them brand new for $1600. I think I over paid but that is ok.


Look how sexy it looks:



I have the opportunity to get one in Palisander for $600 and I'm debating on getting a third one. I was also given a deal on a real ELO with MCL leather for $3100 (floor sample) but I have no need for two lounge chairs. It does look over the top when you have two like this in your living room.


I would also consider getting something else instead of Eames. Nelson coconut chair or a Wegner chair can be had for reasonable price. One can find a reasonbly mint one for $1600
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I think Chronoguy really hit the nail on the head when he said once you start getting to 1000USD area rip offs don´t make sense, especially when you see the interesting alternatives that are out there. I don´t think any copy is worth buying but Chrono has but some sort of tangible value on it.
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Originally Posted by Brittany Paris View Post

And PS: I'm a she...

Would hit.
post #373 of 730
Exactly. There are some excellent choices sub $1500.
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

Would hit.

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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

Exactly. There are some excellent choices sub $1500.

Are we still talking about chairs?
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post


Are we still talking about chairs?

Yes, you are not though.
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