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post #121 of 600
Brittany, do you ever think that you might actually get to see, and sit on this knock-off that you've been making such a song and dance about for months now?
post #122 of 600
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Brittany, do you ever think that you might actually get to see, and sit on this knock-off that you've been making such a song and dance about for months now?
Are you that thick headed?!! I only let people know what the company promised. And i said numerous times "We'll see." Or "I hope they are legit." And I also said I was disappointed in the company for the delay in sending the chair. Ugh, what planet are you people from??
post #123 of 600
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Are you that thick headed?!! I only let people know what the company promised. And i said numerous times "We'll see." Or "I hope they are legit." And I also said I was disappointed in the company for the delay in sending the chair. Ugh, what planet are you people from??

Yes I might be thick headed, but I'm certainly not gullible. "what the company promised". If there's one thing I know about counterfeiters, they can be blatant liers. This story they've been telling you about the container getting delayed. The thing could have been impounded by Customs for all you know. FYI copyright infringement is a crime.

BTW I know all about counterfeits, knock-offs and replicas, I live in China. Myself, I wouldn't buy a replica Apple iPhone, just as I wouldn't buy knock-off furniture.
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Yes I might be thick headed, but I'm certainly not gullible. "what the company promised". If there's one thing I know about counterfeiters, they can be blatant liers. This story they've been telling you about the container getting delayed. The thing could have been impounded by Customs for all you know. FYI copyright infringement is a crime.

BTW I know all about counterfeits, knock-offs and replicas, I live in China. Myself, I wouldn't buy a replica Apple iPhone, just as I wouldn't buy knock-off furniture.
Electronics are different than furniture. Furniture can be "copied" in a tasteful way and can get ridiculously close to the original, almost identical. Sometimes better.
post #125 of 600
In your opinion. However the devil is in the details.
post #126 of 600
two words...fake orgasms.
As a woman how do you see them, do they give as much enjoyment as the real thing? puzzled.gif

Or are they to use your words " ridiculously close to the original, almost identical. Sometimes better."
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two words...fake orgasms.
As a woman how do you see them, do they give as much enjoyment as the real thing? puzzled.gif

Or are they to use your words " ridiculously close to the original, almost identical. Sometimes better."
How does a fake orgasm have anything to do with a reproduction?? Now you're just reaching...
post #128 of 600
Well you are openly supporting the value to be had in a good fake over the real thing so my question still stands.
Is a fake orgasm better than the real thing, a simple yes or no will do!
post #129 of 600
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Electronics are different than furniture. Furniture can be "copied" in a tasteful way and can get ridiculously close to the original, almost identical. Sometimes better.

All fakes, whether electronic, furniture or orgasm, can be extremely variable. Some can be as good as the originals, while some can be downright shoddy. Thing is whatever they are, they're very much illegal, due to copyright infringement.

A container full of KIRF Eames chairs, coming from China or wherever, is highly likely to be seized by Customs. I suspect Herman Miller, like most famous brands who suffer heavy counterfeiting, takes a pro-active role in trying to curtail this illegal trade.
post #130 of 600
The issue is that the companies are located in countries like the uk, brazil and Italy where products become public domain 25 years after they were designed and not 70 years after the designs death, as it is almost everywhere else, so infact they are not illegal just poor taste.

The uk has been making moves towards changing this and the law was passed last year, now they just need to figure out, when to activate it, which involves talking to the resellers of said products about how long they need to shut up shop, my guess is 20-15 years.

The Danish/European copyright laws allow you to buy a chair in the uk and then import it to f.x Denmark, but you are not allowed to sell it again (although if you go on to any 2. Hand site they are dime a dousin).

Even Anders Fogh the former prime minister (now NATO boss) wife was photographed holding a fake LV during an official meeting, which was bought fully legal.

Peter Pan is public domain in the uk, so if you like you can produce and sell tinkerbell blow up dolls and Disney can't do shit about it.
post #131 of 600
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The issue is that the companies are located in countries like the uk, brazil and Italy where products become public domain 25 years after they were designed and not 70 years after the designs death, as it is almost everywhere else, so infact they are not illegal just poor taste.

The uk has been making moves towards changing this and the law was passed last year, now they just need to figure out, when to activate it, which involves talking to the resellers of said products about how long they need to shut up shop, my guess is 20-15 years.

The Danish/European copyright laws allow you to buy a chair in the uk and then import it to f.x Denmark, but you are not allowed to sell it again (although if you go on to any 2. Hand site they are dime a dousin).

Even Anders Fogh the former prime minister (now NATO boss) wife was photographed holding a fake LV during an official meeting, which was bought fully legal.

But then LVMH are making a stiff compensation claim, and demanding a public apology, from some Hong Kong hairdresser for having a knock-off LV pattern chair.
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1179508/louis-vuitton-demands-compensation-hong-kong-hairdresser-over
Talk about petty, and going after the little guys.
post #132 of 600
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But then LVMH are making a stiff compensation claim, and demanding a public apology, from some Hong Kong hairdresser for having a knock-off LV pattern chair.
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1179508/louis-vuitton-demands-compensation-hong-kong-hairdresser-over
Talk about petty, and going after the little guys.

They went after Britney Spears for her pink LV Hummer, as well so it's not a first, I heard that Gucci went after a danish guy for the same thing a while back.

LVMH is bit different to most firms as they have a huge legal department and can afford to go after anyone and everyone they want, but with the issues they have with counterfeiting it makes sense.
post #133 of 600
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Originally Posted by MikeDT View Post

All fakes, whether electronic, furniture or orgasm, can be extremely variable. Some can be as good as the originals, while some can be downright shoddy. Thing is whatever they are, they're very much illegal, due to copyright infringement.

A container full of KIRF Eames chairs, coming from China or wherever, is highly likely to be seized by Customs. I suspect Herman Miller, like most famous brands who suffer heavy counterfeiting, takes a pro-active role in trying to curtail this illegal trade.
Haven't the patents on these brands been long expired?? So how are copies "illegal"?
post #134 of 600
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Haven't the patents on these brands been long expired?? So how are copies "illegal"?

IANAL the patents have long since expired, but the copyright on a design might not have. If you're in the US, which seems to be totally obsessed with long term copyright enforcement, i.e. Copyright Term Extension Act (CTEA). Someone trying to import knock-offs into the US had better be very careful. But on the other hand where I am copyright doesn't seem to have any meaning at all, and is probably where your Eames replica was made as well.
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IANAL the patents have long since expired, but the copyright on a design might not have. If you're in the US, which seems to be totally obsessed with long term copyright enforcement, i.e. Copyright Term Extension Act (CTEA). Someone trying to import knock-offs into the US had better be very careful. But on the other hand where I am copyright doesn't seem to have any meaning at all, and is probably where your Eames replica was made as well.
Even Amazon is selling Eames lounge copies so I doubt it's illegal here in the states...
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