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post #2026 of 2318
^ you're overthinking it. Either you like the finish or you don't.

I don't. It looks off. Wouldn't buy it.
post #2027 of 2318

I don't mind the finish. I just don't want anything fake or suspect.

 

Epaulets latest summer LBM 1911 jackets have the same finish at the ivory jacket so its not anymore a concern

post #2028 of 2318

Didn't realize the Yoox items from the 80% sales are from their Italian warehouse.  Have a couple of shipments stuck in New Jersey Import Scan for the past 3 days, anyone has the same issue? 

post #2029 of 2318
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Originally Posted by Displacement View Post

The new shirt sizing is bananas. 36+ = 38 = 15.5? 38 = 39? What am I supposed to make of this?

 

Ya, it's kinda jacked up. I wonder why they did it.  I used to be a size 41 and now I am a size 40. A 40+ is a 42. I would think a 40+ would be a 41, but nope.

post #2030 of 2318
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Originally Posted by StormRider View Post
 

Didn't realize the Yoox items from the 80% sales are from their Italian warehouse.  Have a couple of shipments stuck in New Jersey Import Scan for the past 3 days, anyone has the same issue? 

 

Yes, it has been happening more often lately. If it stays there long enough, they will give you a discount. You can ask.

post #2031 of 2318
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Originally Posted by Displacement View Post

The new shirt sizing is bananas. 36+ = 38 = 15.5? 38 = 39? What am I supposed to make of this?

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Originally Posted by camomile View Post

Ya, it's kinda jacked up. I wonder why they did it.  I used to be a size 41 and now I am a size 40. A 40+ is a 42. I would think a 40+ would be a 41, but nope.

I finally took a look at this. Not sure what they are doing - are they trying to equate shirt size to suit size? That's crazy.

At least they still show the cm measurement on the size chart, so you can convert back to your neck size in inches (if you don't already know), and then look up their new "US" size.
post #2032 of 2318
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Originally Posted by kmdsimpson View Post



I finally took a look at this. Not sure what they are doing - are they trying to equate shirt size to suit size? That's crazy.

At least they still show the cm measurement on the size chart, so you can convert back to your neck size in inches (if you don't already know), and then look up their new "US" size.

 

Because the vast majority of stuff they sell is in tagged with EU sizing, i.e. 50, 48, etc, including shirts.

post #2033 of 2318
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Originally Posted by KingJulien View Post

Because the vast majority of stuff they sell is in tagged with EU sizing, i.e. 50, 48, etc, including shirts.

No, that's not what I mean. Dress shirts are sold by neck size. For example, when you see 39 (cm), that means the neck actually measures 39 cm around. If you convert that to inches, it is a little over 15.3, or approximately 15 1/2.

So 38 cm = 15 US, 39 = 15.5 US, 40 = 16 US, etc...

What they are doing is taking dress shirts and converting them to suit sizes. A 50 EU/40 US suit is the chest measurement of the wearer. Someone wearing a 40 suit might take a 15 or a 15.5 or a 16 shirt. There is no straight equivalent.
post #2034 of 2318
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Originally Posted by kmdsimpson View Post


No, that's not what I mean. Dress shirts are sold by neck size. For example, when you see 39 (cm), that means the neck actually measures 39 cm around. If you convert that to inches, it is a little over 15.3, or approximately 15 1/2.

So 38 cm = 15 US, 39 = 15.5 US, 40 = 16 US, etc...

What they are doing is taking dress shirts and converting them to suit sizes. A 50 EU/40 US suit is the chest measurement of the wearer. Someone wearing a 40 suit might take a 15 or a 15.5 or a 16 shirt. There is no straight equivalent.

 

Do you have an example? Every shirt I've seen on yoox is either sold in chest size (cm or inches) with the exception of a rare few that are sold by neck size, but in inches.  I've never seen a metric neck size on there.

 

Also, there are several Yoox warehouses. Their main one is in Italy; if you get something shipped from the US it's because it was a return.  It usually takes 3-5 days to ship something from Italy to their US warehouse, but it's not like it's going through customs and I've never had anything take longer than that.

post #2035 of 2318
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Originally Posted by KingJulien View Post

Do you have an example? Every shirt I've seen on yoox is either sold in chest size (cm or inches) with the exception of a rare few that are sold by neck size, but in inches.  I've never seen a metric neck size on there.

Also, there are several Yoox warehouses. Their main one is in Italy; if you get something shipped from the US it's because it was a return.  It usually takes 3-5 days to ship something from Italy to their US warehouse, but it's not like it's going through customs and I've never had anything take longer than that.

I think the number you are referring to as chest size is actually the neck size. Virtually every dress shirt Yoox sells that has a single number (as opposed to saying "S", "M", or "L") as their size would be referring to neck size. In the past, a shirt that said 39 (cm) would say 15.5 for the US. 39 cm ~ 15.5 in. This is the circumference of the collar. This is normal practice for dress shirts. In fact, many shirts would show something like 39/15.5 on the tag.

In suits, a 50 EU = 40 US. This is the circumference of a person's chest.
EDIT: The 40 US refers to 40 inches. The 50 EU obviously cannot be centimeters and is some other index.

What Yoox is showing now is something like 39 (cm) EU = 38 US. They are mixing the neck size in centimeters with the chest size in inches. Really, what they are doing is saying that a "medium" person wears a 39 cm shirt, so they assume that person wears a 38 US suit. There is no need to do this, and it is confusing things.

Here is a picture I just took of a shirt I bought from Yoox. The tag says 39/15.5. 39 is EU, so it is 39 cm. The 15.5 is US, so it is 15.5 inches. Neck size. (If you convert 39 cm to in, you actually get 15.35; they round it to the US equivalent of 15.5. EVERY quality dress shirt is sold by neck size (and also sleeve length, when available). Standard industry practice.




But... if you want to use the neck sizing and are used to buying dress shirts that way, and you live in the US, then the solution is to do the conversion to figure out what your EU size is in cm, then use that information to purchase from Yoox, and ignore the US sizing shown.
Edited by kmdsimpson - 2/26/14 at 7:20am
post #2036 of 2318
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Originally Posted by Mr Engineer View Post

I don't think that it is an lengthening issue. Notice the gap between the stitching and the button on this LBM jacket.



I thought it was lenghtened due to the gap between buttons and hem, but in the blu jacket above It's the same, so this huge gap it's the standard for Lardini.
Surely in the cream jacket, that Pick-stitching position it's just a designing choice.

By the way, on yoox fake garments are very rare and almost zero, items with minor alterations or slightly used/untagged not so uncommon.
post #2037 of 2318
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Originally Posted by kmdsimpson View Post

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I think the number you are referring to as chest size is actually the neck size. Virtually every dress shirt Yoox sells that has a single number (as opposed to saying "S", "M", or "L") as their size would be referring to neck size. In the past, a shirt that said 39 (cm) would say 15.5 for the US. 39 cm ~ 15.5 in. This is the circumference of the collar. This is normal practice for dress shirts. In fact, many shirts would show something like 39/15.5 on the tag.

In suits, a 50 EU = 40 US. This is the circumference of a person's chest.
EDIT: The 40 US refers to 40 inches. The 50 EU obviously cannot be centimeters and is some other index.

What Yoox is showing now is something like 39 (cm) EU = 38 US. They are mixing the neck size in centimeters with the chest size in inches. Really, what they are doing is saying that a "medium" person wears a 39 cm shirt, so they assume that person wears a 38 US suit. There is no need to do this, and it is confusing things.

Here is a picture I just took of a shirt I bought from Yoox. The tag says 39/15.5. 39 is EU, so it is 39 cm. The 15.5 is US, so it is 15.5 inches. Neck size. (If you convert 39 cm to in, you actually get 15.35; they round it to the US equivalent of 15.5. EVERY quality dress shirt is sold by neck size (and also sleeve length, when available). Standard industry practice.




But... if you want to use the neck sizing and are used to buying dress shirts that way, and you live in the US, then the solution is to do the conversion to figure out what your EU size is in cm, then use that information to purchase from Yoox, and ignore the US sizing shown.

 

 

Gotcha. I think we're just purchasing different brands.  For example:

 

http://www.yoox.com/us/38366086QV/item?dept=men#sts=sr_men80&cod10=38366086QV&sizeId=

 

This brand is always sold by chest size.  However, Jil used to be labeled in inches for neck size, and now it has that weird number you're saying:

 

http://www.yoox.com/us/38360721TW/item?dept=clothingmen#sts=sr_clothingmen80&cod10=38360721TW&sizeId=7

 

As somebody that is used to purchasing stuff based on chest size anyway, I guess it's less weird to me that they're converting it like that.

post #2038 of 2318
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Originally Posted by KingJulien View Post

Gotcha. I think we're just purchasing different brands.  For example:

http://www.yoox.com/us/38366086QV/item?dept=men#sts=sr_men80&cod10=38366086QV&sizeId=

This brand is always sold by chest size.  However, Jil used to be labeled in inches for neck size, and now it has that weird number you're saying:

http://www.yoox.com/us/38360721TW/item?dept=clothingmen#sts=sr_clothingmen80&cod10=38360721TW&sizeId=7

As somebody that is used to purchasing stuff based on chest size anyway, I guess it's less weird to me that they're converting it like that.

Yes, I see what you mean. The Dries is chest size. The Jil is neck size that they are doing some funky conversion on.

Why are they doing this? There was nothing wrong with the old system. And it likely means they'll get more returns due to size issues. It's craziness.
post #2039 of 2318

I think a lot of people don't purchase shirts based on neck sizes.  I never have.  

post #2040 of 2318
What's frustrating about the system to me is that shirts labeled 40 are 38+ in the system, and shirts labeled 41 are called 40. It's nonsense.

I have had no luck with Yoox's shirting as I can never predict when I'm a 15.5 or a 15.75, but I don't see how this change addresses anything. I imagine they're trying to fix a higher-than-average return rate on shirts with sizing problems, but the only way that's going to get fixed is with measurements
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