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People who put others in those positions are kind of dicks but sometimes you need to take one for the team. In a just world, one of them should at least offer to buy you a drink later.

+1
The only other option here is to not pay you share, pitch a fit, ruin the mood, and be remembered as being cheap.
post #92 of 481

^^ Interesting.  I'm talking about a few minutes here. So you're saying leave the knife and fork at rest as if I was still eating until the last person finishes then we all move our cutlery to signal to the waiter that it's cool to take the plates away.  Do we go in reverse order of finishing or act simultaneously?  Tines up or down?

 

Can someone cite a reference?

 

lefty 

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^^ Interesting.  I'm talking about a few minutes here. So you're saying leave the knife and fork at rest as if I was still eating until the last person finishes then we all move our cutlery to signal to the waiter that it's cool to take the plates away.  Do we go in reverse order of finishing or act simultaneously?  Tines up or down?

 

Can someone cite a reference?

 

lefty 


Yeah this seems overkill. When I finish eating my cutlery goes to the off position. When everyone at the table has done this, then the waiter should clear the plates. Why is that so hard?
post #94 of 481
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Why is that so hard?
Do you really want to know?
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I'm surprised by the amount of anxiety caused by restaurants/tipping/manners. It's never something I've put much thought into until these recent threads. My strategy:

  • In North America I tip 15% to 20%
  • If gratuity is included at a North American establishment I'll still usually tip 10% if I had a good time.
  • I always include the entire bill when calculating a tip.
  • I rarely tip in Europe. Given the fact that I'm still relatively young, some servers view it as an insult.
  • I tip barristas and bartenders between $1 and $2 an order. Not including Starbucks. Starbucks is shit.
  • If I'm in a third world country I'll tip what I would back home.
  • I hate tipping valet parking attendants but I usually give around $5.
  • I don't decrease a tip if there is something wrong with my food. I decrease the tip if the server doesn't make an effort to correct the situation.
  • Giving me something for free is a great way to get a better tip.
  • I put my cutlery in the off position when I'm done eating. I don't particularly care if they take it away before everyone else is done. That being said, I take care to finish at the same time as my dining partners. I'm a fast eater so I have to consciously slow down.
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what is red bean?

It's a bean commonly used in Asian desserts, baked goods, and pastries. Most often, it is sweetened and mashed into a creamy paste which appears dark burgundy in color.
 
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It's a bean commonly used in Asian desserts, baked goods, and pastries. Most often, it is sweetened and mashed into a creamy paste which appears dark burgundy in color.

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that's what I'd thought, but then I thought no one could compare that to watching baby jesus burn alive, whatever that's supposed to mean.

Someone compared azuki beans to the death of baby Jesus? Blasphemer, that's reason enough not to dine with him

 

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"Hey that's a nice (piece of clothing). Where did you get it?"

I never know how to answer this question and tend to just brush it off. Do you usually tell them the actual name of the store you bought it from? Or just the name of the brand?

I just say online most of the time and they leave it at that, if it's someone who seems like they'd actually be interested in clothes (and, to be honest, seem like they'd be willing to pay for it) I may be more specific.
 

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For me the upshot of all these anecdotes and hence recommendations depend greatly on the age of the "little kids" in question and the exact situation. I often find it distasteful how infuriated some adults become at the antics of very small children who clearly are not culpable and whose parents are clearly doing their best to maintain order in an uncomfortable situation. On the other hand, there is no question that there are parents who believe their unruly 7-year-olds can do no wrong, even if they're shooting spit-balls into your soup.

I would say use your discretion, but generally assume children don't know any better, and the parents are far more upset at whatever it is they're doing than you are.

And the oft posed question, should they really be bringing their little ones to such places knowing they're not going to be perfectly behaved for one reason or another?

post #97 of 481
As for tipping, the method I use is to double the tax, round off. That is usually about %17-18 and the math is super simple. I over tip when getting comped.
post #98 of 481
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Originally Posted by KitAkira View Post

And the oft posed question, should they really be bringing their little ones to such places knowing they're not going to be perfectly behaved for one reason or another?


Nope. Growing up, the only ever real threat I got from my dad was to never, under any circumstance, embarrass him in public. My life was on the line every time we went to a restaurant. I never caused any problems and other diners would routinely come over to our table and complement me and my siblings on our table manners. It happened frequently enough that it was one of the reasons why we liked going out.
post #99 of 481
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And the oft posed question, should they really be bringing their little ones to such places knowing they're not going to be perfectly behaved for one reason or another?

Well, what are "such places?" There are certainly places that should be off limits to all but the best behaved children but those are fairly limited. And remember, no matter how good a job you do as a parent and how well behaved the kid is in general, they all have bad moments (except mine of course).
post #100 of 481
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i assumed, you were talking about the u.s.

Ha! Good one.
post #101 of 481
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Originally Posted by Stazy View Post

I'm surprised by the amount of anxiety caused by restaurants/tipping/manners. It's never something I've put much thought into until these recent threads. My strategy:

  • In North America I tip 15% to 20%
  • If gratuity is included at a North American establishment I'll still usually tip 10% if I had a good time.
  • I always include the entire bill when calculating a tip.
  • I rarely tip in Europe. Given the fact that I'm still relatively young, some servers view it as an insult.
  • I tip barristas and bartenders between $1 and $2 an order. Not including Starbucks. Starbucks is shit.
  • If I'm in a third world country I'll tip what I would back home.
  • I hate tipping valet parking attendants but I usually give around $5.
  • I don't decrease a tip if there is something wrong with my food. I decrease the tip if the server doesn't make an effort to correct the situation.
  • Giving me something for free is a great way to get a better tip.
  • I put my cutlery in the off position when I'm done eating. I don't particularly care if they take it away before everyone else is done. That being said, I take care to finish at the same time as my dining partners. I'm a fast eater so I have to consciously slow down.

Servers in Europe do not view tips as an insult. One doesn't tip as much as in the US, of course, but if you don't tip at all you will look like an ass.
post #102 of 481
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post

I'm married and don't really care about looking good for other women, so when I have old friends who want to meet up in a casual restaurant/bar I'll just go straight in in scrubs and at least say hi.

please. you know you wear the scrubs so tha ladies know you're a doctor
post #103 of 481
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Originally Posted by freedom_fries View Post


Servers in Europe do not view tips as an insult. One doesn't tip as much as in the US, of course, but if you don't tip at all you will look like an ass.

When I was in Paris a waiter turned down my tip because I was a student.
post #104 of 481
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When I was in Paris a waiter turned down my tip because I was a student.

that waiter was literally insane.

but in all seriousness, people often take me for a student despite my advanced age (for american standards), and i have never had a tip refused anywhere, by anyone (in france, other europe, or otherwise). i believe this happened, but i'm wary of taking it as an indicator of tipping practices in general in france (i can say with certainty it is not the case in the DACH).
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