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Also, isn't it sort of stalker/creepy to go back to the clubhouse and see if a person you met on the course is a full member or yearly member? I wonder what the staff think of his repeatedly looking up this information with them?
post #152 of 481
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B1os, you missed the point. Americans are often accused of thinking in terms that are overly broad, not discerning differences amongst other countries. To create a scenario of the US culture vs. the "culture of Europe" is to commit that same error. The culture of southern Italy is far different from the culture of Denmark or Finland. This is what I was trying to point out to you.

As to His Majesty I was merely pointing out his two pieces of data about this alleged golf club do no ad up. As the second was an attempt to rebut something I said earlier its incongruence leads me to believe he is making things up as he goes and cannot keep his imaginary creation consistent.
I think you missed the point, too. wink.gif
I wasn't serious when I talked about the "differences" between US and European society. I just wanted to point out the problem I have with you guys bashing Louis XIV for his polite and helpful attitude. I didn't believe that in the US helpful and friendly people are seen as bad-mannered (because imo this is the key to any working society). I now understand that it was all about the golf thing, so never mind.
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I think you missed the point, too. wink.gif
I wasn't serious when I talked about the "differences" between US and European society. I just wanted to point out the problem I have with you guys bashing Louis XIV for his polite and helpful attitude. I didn't believe that in the US helpful and friendly people are seen as bad-mannered (because imo this is the key to any working society). I now understand that it was all about the golf thing, so never mind.

No, your "point" is extraneous to what I just explained to you re: conflating European cultures and this is what Euros often accuse Americans of doing.
post #154 of 481
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I can't think of anybody who could be at a lower status at a golf club than a person who refuses to follow the traditions of a sport that is so tradition based, no matter who his grand pappy was. It is almost the definition of barbarian to act as he claims to.

Honestly, I'm pretty sure that acting like a barbarian is the only way I could get through a round of golf with my sanity intact. I prefer my sports to give me a lot more instant gratification.
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I can't think of anybody who could be at a lower status at a golf club than a person who refuses to follow the traditions of a sport that is so tradition based, no matter who his grand pappy was. It is almost the definition of barbarian to act as he claims to.

Wait a minute buddy, do not use the word "sport" and "golf" in the same sentence unless you are trying to contrast them.
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I can't think of anybody who could be at a lower status at a golf club than a person who refuses to follow the traditions of a sport that is so tradition based, no matter who his grand pappy was. It is almost the definition of barbarian to act as he claims to.

Does that mean you golf in plus-fours?
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Honestly, I'm pretty sure that acting like a barbarian is the only way I could get through a round of golf with my sanity intact. I prefer my sports to give me a lot more instant gratification.

Drunk/high golfing is the only way to cope. A nice game of "mutter insults under your breath in the clubhouse" is the best way to top it off.
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Does that mean you golf in plus-fours and a tweed jacket?

No, nor do I play with hickory shafts or a gutta percha ball. You are conflating the traditions with the trappings of time.
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Does that mean you golf in plus-fours?

Traditions evolve, don't be childish.
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No, nor do I play with hickory shafts or a gutta percha ball. You are conflating the traditions with the trappings of time.

Ah, my bad. I assumed that polo shirts and those ugly shoes had been adopted as they were more practical and comfortable for golfing in than plus fours and tweed.

I don't have a dog in this fight though, I don't play golf. If the club has a dress code, even an unspoken one he should probably stick to it.
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Traditions evolve, don't be childish.

I am very bored. I can't help myself.
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No, your "point" is extraneous to what I just explained to you re: conflating European cultures and this is what Euros often accuse Americans of doing.
No it's not and I'm sorry if you think it is.
I wanted to say that imo being polite, helpful, kind, respectful, have a positive aura, whatever is seen positive in every society, be it Ukrania, China, Turkey, Germany, Nigeria or the US. If this is not the case, please tell me that polite people are seen as bad-mannered in your part of the US. I doubt that but because you (not only you, more Fuuma etc.) bashed Louis XIV for helping old people etc - at least that's what I interpreted - I sarcastically said that your society is the only one in which these habits are not positive (I could have said US society in comparison to every other society, but again, I didn't believe so and was just giving a broad hint)
But whatever.
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No it's not and I'm sorry if you think it is.
I wanted to say that imo being polite, helpful, kind, respectful, have a positive aura, whatever is seen positive in every society, be it Ukrania, China, Turkey, Germany, Nigeria or the US. If this is not the case, please tell me that polite people are seen as bad-mannered in your part of the US. I doubt that but because you (not only you, more Fuuma etc.) bashed Louis XIV for helping old people etc - at least that's what I interpreted - I sarcastically said that your society is the only one in which these habits are not positive (I could have said US society in comparison to every other society, but again, I didn't believe so and was just giving a broad hint)
But whatever.

I'm not American Fritz.
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Edited by Louis XIV - 10/12/11 at 2:28pm
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iammatt, thanks for your reply, would you please describe to myself what is barbarian about my acts?

That you are trolling a thread about etiquette?
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Edited by Louis XIV - 10/12/11 at 2:27pm
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