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post #781 of 1719
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

meh, i enjoyed the skills competition just to see the guys goof around and see the lighter side of things. in a downer season full of headshots, concussions, and discipline shenanigans, its incredibly refreshing to see stuff like last night. is it an objective measurement of skills? no. are some of the categories played out and boring? yeah, for sure. still fun though.

Fans (myself) included, are probably too critical of the AS game. I mean, what exactly CAN they deliver? A tight game full of physical play and defence? Unlikely. The players try to put on a show and some of them (such as Price last night) do a good job hamming it up for the camera which is probably the most they can do to spice up the event.
post #782 of 1719
I was in the building for both the skills and the ASG. It was a phenomenal once in a lifetime experience and I'm glad I could go with my dad. Just like being a kid again.
post #783 of 1719
i liked it when thomas and sedin hugged smile.gif
post #784 of 1719
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

i liked it when thomas and sedin hugged smile.gif

Thomas also said something to Daniel about the hug, then Daniel pointed out that he had hugged Henrick happy.gif
post #785 of 1719
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i liked it when thomas and sedin hugged smile.gif

Every time I watch the ASG I get the feeling fans are suckers. No one ever seems to truly dislike anyone else, even bitter rivals. Makes it seem like WWE.
post #786 of 1719
Anyone see the awful call disallowing a Leafs goal in Pittsburg tonight?
post #787 of 1719
Yes. So bad they actually un-called a penalty on it. When does that happen. Good rivalry game between Van and Chi yesterday too:
post #788 of 1719
the Sabres (finally) put together a nice game together last night against Montreal. Periods 2 and 3 were very much in Buffalo's favor, though Montreal did put together some quality chances. And Leino was also very strong, he seemed to be everywhere on the ice.
post #789 of 1719
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Originally Posted by AR_Six View Post

Yes. So bad they actually un-called a penalty on it. When does that happen. Good rivalry game between Van and Chi yesterday too:

anyone other than hughson calling a canucks game weirds me out.

edit: man schneider was beasting on the hawks
post #790 of 1719
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

anyone other than hughson calling a canucks game weirds me out.
Then enjoy this 5 minute video of Jim Hughson calling Luongo saves.
post #791 of 1719
Instigator penalty = more concussions?

What say ye?
post #792 of 1719
No, I say no red line = more concussions.
post #793 of 1719
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Originally Posted by Thrifter View Post

No, I say no red line = more concussions.

this, and i think eric "blue line" lindros has alluded to the same thing. that plus harder equipment and its no wonder.

i think the instigator thing may be related, but a lot of guys are getting the dreaded concussion-like symptoms from multiple subconcussive or borderline concussive hits. nobody's getting bertuzzi'd or mcsorley'd anymore, so i dont think dropping the instigator would prevent a lot of it.

oh, and sam gagner? love it, two things though. 1: wtf chicago 2: why cant edmonton string together all of its youthful talent and epic one-off performances into a consistent season
Edited by jarude - 2/3/12 at 6:30am
post #794 of 1719
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

this, and i think eric "blue line" lindros has alluded to the same thing. that plus harder equipment and its no wonder.
i think the instigator thing may be related, but a lot of guys are getting the dreaded concussion-like symptoms from multiple subconcussive or borderline concussive hits. nobody's getting bertuzzi'd or mcsorley'd anymore, so i dont think dropping the instigator would prevent a lot of it.

Generally agree with the above.

I think the main reasons for increased concussions ( or at least increased awareness):

1. Harder equipment

2. Poor diagnosis of hits, which makes it easier to compound concussions with other concussions, which then becomes even more dangerous.

I think if they softened some of the equipment (specifically elbow pads) they would minimize a lot of damage and the doctors employed by the league's teams need to be better. The recent fiasco with Crosy shows that these guys either don't know what they are doing or are giving players the diagnosis they want to hear.
post #795 of 1719
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

this, and i think eric "blue line" lindros has alluded to the same thing. that plus harder equipment and its no wonder.
i think the instigator thing may be related, but a lot of guys are getting the dreaded concussion-like symptoms from multiple subconcussive or borderline concussive hits. nobody's getting bertuzzi'd or mcsorley'd anymore, so i dont think dropping the instigator would prevent a lot of it.
oh, and sam gagner? love it, two things though. 1: wtf chicago 2: why cant edmonton string together all of its youthful talent and epic one-off performances into a consistent season

I think what people are saying is that there's more cheap shots because there are less enforcers. Players wouldn't be getting as many head shots if the offenders knew that they were going to get their ass kicked. I guess it's more along the lines of "let the players enforce themselves".

For the record, I don't really have an opinion either way. I'm just pointing that out.
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Originally Posted by Lord-Barrington View Post

Generally agree with the above.
I think the main reasons for increased concussions ( or at least increased awareness):
1. Harder equipment
2. Poor diagnosis of hits, which makes it easier to compound concussions with other concussions, which then becomes even more dangerous.
I think if they softened some of the equipment (specifically elbow pads) they would minimize a lot of damage and the doctors employed by the league's teams need to be better. The recent fiasco with Crosy shows that these guys either don't know what they are doing or are giving players the diagnosis they want to hear.

I was thinking more along the lines of shoulder pads.
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