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post #421 of 1719
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

i know we have.
"hey guys he's coming back this weekend!"
"LOL kidding, out 6 more weeks for another knee surgery."
if the dude comes back and plays 2 full seasons putting up 40+ pts per, I'll gladly eat my words. until then i have him lumped in with dipietro and connolly.
phaneuf completely dumped sauer tonight, what an awesome fucking hit. helmet flew off and everything, classic stuff.

I don't think the Connolly signing was particularly bad either. It's risky as hell, just like the Markov signing, but they come with high rewards as well.

The DiPietro signing is an entire animal altogether. The length, value, and the asset itself were all wildly overvalued.
post #422 of 1719
DP needs to throw in the towel. when you get a groin injury from lateral movement, something that is of certain importance to a goaltender, maybe you need to accept that your body just isnt made for the game.

i think im just mad that there is a 5.7 mil per d-man capable of 60pt seasons sitting on the sidelines while a certain 6.7 mil pylon is playing in calgary... frown.gif
post #423 of 1719
Has this been posted yet?

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PEBBLE BEACH, Calif. – The NHL embraced its first major realignment since 1998 when the board of governors voted to switch to a new four-conference format that will also guarantee that every team will play the other 29 teams at least twice every season.

By Bruce Fedyck, US Presswire

The breakdown of the four new conferences:

Conference A: Anaheim, Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Los Angeles, Phoenix, San Jose, Vancouver

Conference B: Chicago, Columbus, Dallas, Detroit, Minnesota, Nashville, St. Louis, Winnipeg

Conference C: Boston, Buffalo, Florida, Montreal, Ottawa, Tampa Bay, Toronto

Conference D: Carolina, New Jersey, New York Rangers, New York Islanders, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Washington

Sixteen teams will still make the playoffs, and the first two rounds of the playoffs will be within the conference.

"I think it's good for almost everybody in the league," Nashville Predators general manager David Poile said. "We know this is a very contentious issue … but at the end of the day, everyone went in the direction of doing what's right for the league."

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Derek Boogaard: A Brain ‘Going Bad’

By JOHN BRANCH
Published: December 5, 2011

THROUGH THE NIGHT and into the next day, as the scrolls across the bottom of television screens spread the news of Derek Boogaard’s death last May, the calls of condolences came, one after another.

Among them was a call from a stranger, first to Joanne Boogaard in Regina, Saskatchewan, then to Len Boogaard in Ottawa. It was a researcher asking for the brain of their son.

An examination of the brain could unlock answers to Boogaard’s life and death. It could save other lives. But there was not much time to make a decision. Boogaard, the N.H.L.’s fiercest fighter, dead of a drug and alcohol overdose at 28, was going to be cremated.
post #424 of 1719
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Originally Posted by Tck13 View Post

Has this been posted yet?
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PEBBLE BEACH, Calif. – The NHL embraced its first major realignment since 1998 when the board of governors voted to switch to a new four-conference format that will also guarantee that every team will play the other 29 teams at least twice every season.
By Bruce Fedyck, US Presswire
The breakdown of the four new conferences:
Conference A: Anaheim, Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Los Angeles, Phoenix, San Jose, Vancouver
Conference B: Chicago, Columbus, Dallas, Detroit, Minnesota, Nashville, St. Louis, Winnipeg
Conference C: Boston, Buffalo, Florida, Montreal, Ottawa, Tampa Bay, Toronto
Conference D: Carolina, New Jersey, New York Rangers, New York Islanders, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Washington
Sixteen teams will still make the playoffs, and the first two rounds of the playoffs will be within the conference.
"I think it's good for almost everybody in the league," Nashville Predators general manager David Poile said. "We know this is a very contentious issue … but at the end of the day, everyone went in the direction of doing what's right for the league."
Also:
Link
Quote:
Derek Boogaard: A Brain ‘Going Bad’
By JOHN BRANCH
Published: December 5, 2011
THROUGH THE NIGHT and into the next day, as the scrolls across the bottom of television screens spread the news of Derek Boogaard’s death last May, the calls of condolences came, one after another.
Among them was a call from a stranger, first to Joanne Boogaard in Regina, Saskatchewan, then to Len Boogaard in Ottawa. It was a researcher asking for the brain of their son.
An examination of the brain could unlock answers to Boogaard’s life and death. It could save other lives. But there was not much time to make a decision. Boogaard, the N.H.L.’s fiercest fighter, dead of a drug and alcohol overdose at 28, was going to be cremated.

YEs, were all over it. Realignment is too much to digest for the moment. I think I'll post my thoughts later.
post #425 of 1719
Wow, the playoffs are going to be nuts with the new conference format.
post #426 of 1719
Fuuu now I need to go google a map to figure out what it will look like.
post #427 of 1719
Wonder how that format will impact all things All-Star.
post #428 of 1719
more rivalries will be created, which is awesome. the bad thing about divisional playoffs is that many teams will never, ever, ever see the postseason and good teams in strong conferences won't make it while okay teams in bad conferences will.

Theoretical playoffs if they started this year with the standings as they are:

Conference A:
Anaheim, Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Los Angeles, Phoenix, San Jose, Vancouver

Round 1
Vancouver vs SJ
LA vs Phoenix
Round 2
Vancouver vs Phoenix

Conference B:
Nashville, St. Louis, Winnipeg, Columbus, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, Minnesota

Round 1
Minnesota vs Detroit
Chicago vs Dallas
Round 2
Detroit vs Chicago

Conference C:
Montreal, Ottawa, Tampa Bay,
Boston, Buffalo, Florida, Toronto

Round 1
Boston vs Buffalo
Florida vs Toronto
Round 2
Boston vs Toronto

Conference D:
Carolina, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington, New York Rangers

Round 1
Philly vs Washington
Pittsburgh vs New York
Round 2
Philly vs Pittsburgh

Reseed Final Four based on playoff record, lets say...
Vancouver vs Boston
Detroit vs Pittsburgh

Cool thing about the re-seeding is that soon-to-be-defunct East/West teams would play against eachother in the "conference" final making the CF or even SCF potentially east/east or west/west. Although you wouldn't be able to play someone from your own conference, which would make for some kickass rivalry, it would be just fantastic to see some all-west finals - Detroit vs Vancouver, or some original 6 matchups - NYR vs Toronto or Boston vs MTL. I really like this, except you can even see at this point the disparity in conferences: washington fucking blows right now yet would make it to the playoffs simply on the basis that carolina, NYI and NJ are abysmally bad while teams in bigger, stronger conferences get the boot.

Only other issue are the perennial playoff contenders. I have a feeling we will see this very very often:

Conference A: Vancouver, SJ, LA and one of Edmonton/Ducks/PHX. Edmonton is on the rise, Vancouver's good, SJ is good, PHX + LA are always solid, Ducks can make a return to form... damn Flames are going to be out of the post for a long long long long long time.
Conference B: Detroit, Chicago, Dallas and one of Min/Nashville/St Louis; CBJ and the Jets are shit outta luck here unless Dallas shits the bed bigtime in the next few years.
Conference C: Boston, Buffalo, Toronto, one of Tampa/MTL. A little more parity here, only 7 teams so not as many teams getting left in the cold. Can't see FLA keeping it up with a hodgepodge of UFA's signings and ancient goaltending, but the parity is mostly there from Toronto down. Even Buffalo isn't really a lock and Ottawa has awhile to go.
Conference D: Philly, Pittsburgh, NYR, Washington. This is a pretty brutal conference if the NYR turn out to be for real and Washington unfucks itself. Carolina is nothing special outside of Staal/Skinner/Ward, NYI sucks and NJ is painfully mediocre with Brodeur losing form and the Kovie signing.

I know shit happens from year to year, see: Anaheim but I can't see there being much of a difference in 3 of the 4 possible playoff teams from each conference. Only conference where there is a lot of parity is conference C with recent ECF finalists Tampa and MTL in with a surprisingly strong rebuilding team in Ottawa and who knows what the fuck with Florida and Toronto. Only guaranteed place in my mind is Boston and this year Buffalo. A, B, and D are going to see at least 3 of those teams repeat year after year after year; especially now with the new format there won't be any last-day playoff seeding shenanigans. Due to the structure, playoff seeding will be determined weeks in advance since disparity in the division is going to be really evident.
Edited by jarude - 12/6/11 at 8:36am
post #429 of 1719
i can't get too excited about conference c, but d looks like it might be pretty interesting.
post #430 of 1719
c is pretty funny. tampa and florida will have to fly past carolina, new york, philly, and pittsburgh to get to toronto, montreal, and ottawa. i think they did it because they have a lot of transplant fans from ontario catching leafs games when they're vacationing down south.

edit: steigerwald, pittsburgh sports writer, just accused ovie and his mother of doping crackup[1].gif
post #431 of 1719
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edit: steigerwald, pittsburgh sports writer, just accused ovie and his mother of doping crackup[1].gif

Steigerwald is such a douche it's a joke.

That said, I'm interested to see how OV picks up. He has returned to last year's average ice time the past few games and has nothing to show for it. Up to this point I chalked his stalling performance to Boud being an idiot. Now there seems to be little stopping him from breaking out. I still feel he could catch fire at any point, but I am starting to get a little restless.
post #432 of 1719
I didn't listen to the Steigerwald Lambert interview but from everything I heard it was some quality entertainment. Need more vampire Crosby jokes.

I'm definitely happy that the Caps are going back to the Patrick Division. More games against Pens Flyers Rangers and less against the SE teams no one cares about will be good. Caps either need to get it in gear or get their asses kicked next year.

But seriously, what we should be talking about right now is Andrei Markov. In fact we should always talk about Andrei Markov. And how awesome his agent is for convincing Montreal to pay him a ton of money to sit on a comfy chair and watch TV while in a perpetual state of injury.
post #433 of 1719
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Originally Posted by Mr. Bananagrabber View Post

I didn't listen to the Steigerwald Lambert interview but from everything I heard it was some quality entertainment. Need more vampire Crosby jokes.
I'm definitely happy that the Caps are going back to the Patrick Division. More games against Pens Flyers Rangers and less against the SE teams no one cares about will be good. Caps either need to get it in gear or get their asses kicked next year.
But seriously, what we should be talking about right now is Andrei Markov. In fact we should always talk about Andrei Markov. And how awesome his agent is for convincing Montreal to pay him a ton of money to sit on a comfy chair and watch TV while in a perpetual state of injury.

The last thing Markov wants is to be on the couch. He ain't Scott Gomez.

As I said, offering him a contract was a calculated risk. We went over it several pages ago and even with this latest setback I don't think it changes anything.
post #434 of 1719
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Originally Posted by Mr. Bananagrabber View Post

I didn't listen to the Steigerwald Lambert interview but from everything I heard it was some quality entertainment. Need more vampire Crosby jokes.
I listened to it for five awful minutes, just heinously bad.

The problem with the Markov contract isn't that they signed him, but that they signed him for so much. Connolly has a PPG I believe this season - he's not the worst performer on my pool team and I have high hopes that by the end of the year he won't be a terrible pick, even though he hasn't much chance of being a steal if he loses any more games. Salo has lost a couple of games as well. But those injury-reputation guys took pay cuts commensurate with that reputation. Markov was signed to a deal that would've been accurate if he'd had a 300 game iron man streak going. That's what doesn't make sense to me.
post #435 of 1719
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I didn't listen to the Steigerwald Lambert interview but from everything I heard it was some quality entertainment. Need more vampire Crosby jokes.
I listened to it for five awful minutes, just heinously bad.

The problem with the Markov contract isn't that they signed him, but that they signed him for so much. Connolly has a PPG I believe this season - he's not the worst performer on my pool team and I have high hopes that by the end of the year he won't be a terrible pick, even though he hasn't much chance of being a steal if he loses any more games. Salo has lost a couple of games as well. But those injury-reputation guys took pay cuts commensurate with that reputation. Markov was signed to a deal that would've been accurate if he'd had a 300 game iron man streak going. That's what doesn't make sense to me.

I think this is a sensible post. I wasn't thrilled about the amount they signed Markov to either. I don't have a problem with them actually signing him, though.

The Steigerwald/Lambert interview was an absolute disgrace. Guys like the Steigerwalds, Jack Edwards, et al. are a black eye for hockey. And I'm sick of Pens/Boston fans saying "If you don't like them, just don't watch the broadcasts!" It extends farther than their own markets, unfortunately, and it makes all of hockey look like a bush league.
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