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post #151 of 1719
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

like i said before the jets pp was anemic and that one pp goal the habs got was from a gift of a phantom call. its your cynical homerism thats all wink.gif. i hope cammy isnt hurt too bad and spacek gets back; dont think you guys need any more blueline injuries.
still cant believe flames let cammy walk...

Based on how things have gone for the last several years, we will be decimated by injuries as well. I think Cammy is out for a few weeks at least.
post #152 of 1719
I thought they said the cut was no big deal, a few days off, precautionary, etc.

Jets have 5 year window to play decently. There's a pretty significant honeymoon period built in to this. They'll sell out even if they're terrible.
post #153 of 1719

I'm glad to hear the injury to Cammy isn't significant. Poor guy always has something derail the start to his season.

 

Anyone else think Buff was going to eat his stick after the phantom call? As a Habs fan I was embarrassed by that penalty. There's no way that kind of officiating should be tolerated. That being said, I am glad to see we buried the opportunities we had and that Patch is continuing to look like a stud. Andre, get used to the third line.

post #154 of 1719
Reffing was almost as bad in the night game, too. Oil got the shaft, still won in the shootout. The call on Smyth was a joke. 2 minutes at most, and not even a call in the last 5 minutes of a tied game, arguably.
post #155 of 1719
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Originally Posted by Shoreman View Post

I'm glad to hear the injury to Cammy isn't significant. Poor guy always has something derail the start to his season.

 

Anyone else think Buff was going to eat his stick after the phantom call? As a Habs fan I was embarrassed by that penalty. There's no way that kind of officiating should be tolerated. That being said, I am glad to see we buried the opportunities we had and that Patch is continuing to look like a stud. Andre, get used to the third line.


Officiating in the NHL has been terrible since I can remember. It's just part of the game. The only consolation is that both teams usually get the shaft an equal amount of times over the course of a season.

I really don't know why officiating seems to be so much worse in the NHL than in other pro sports. Speed of the game, maybe?
post #156 of 1719
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Originally Posted by AR_Six View Post

I thought they said the cut was no big deal, a few days off, precautionary, etc.
Jets have 5 year window to play decently. There's a pretty significant honeymoon period built in to this. They'll sell out even if they're terrible.

Maybe even 5-7 years. Winnipeg won't want to lose a team twice and I can see them selling out for 3-5 mediocre seasons before people start tuning out. If any of the coming 5-7 seasons are in any way successful I think it just gives them a new lease on life and as I said, this is definitely a playoff team in 2-3 years if they play their cards right.

The Jets are here to stay.
post #157 of 1719
Anyone think Smyth will get suspended? It was worth 2 minutes for sure but 5 and a game seemed a little much...
post #158 of 1719
Well considering PMB did, who knows, but I don't think he SHOULD be suspended.
post #159 of 1719
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Originally Posted by Lord-Barrington View Post

Officiating in the NHL has been terrible since I can remember. It's just part of the game. The only consolation is that both teams usually get the shaft an equal amount of times over the course of a season.
I really don't know why officiating seems to be so much worse in the NHL than in other pro sports. Speed of the game, maybe?

must be something. i remember thorburn getting a stick in the chops and cammy yelling at the ref to so he could get off the ice when he got cut, both times even the announcers were asking how 4 guys in stripes missed those situations. what happened to the ref-off-the-ice thing? having big brother watching from a certain elevated position would help with funny business behind the play.

i still remember don cherry's rock em sock em 6 where iirc a blackhawk picked up a puck and threw it in the net and the goal stood. incredible.
post #160 of 1719
It was Nelson Emerson.



There was debate after Hossa's goal last year was called good on video review as to whether it was worse, given the significantly better video review we have now as opposed to 1993.



The worst part on the 2nd one is the unbelievable homerism from both commentators who don't even appear to NOTICE that the puck was obviously kicked in (well, not in, it didn't cross the line) until like 5 minutes of replays.
post #161 of 1719
I'm seen as a curmudgeon in this thread because I constantly bitch about practically everything in the NHL aside from the sport itself. I keep thinking that maybe I should reassess my views, but it's damn hard. The terrible refs, the homer play-by-play guys (would Jack Edwards and Paul Steigerwald have jobs anywhere besides the NHL?) the blind fans, and of course the league itself which often seems to be run like a banana republic (not the store, of course).

Hockey is a wonderful sport but so much of the NHL product is awful.
post #162 of 1719
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Originally Posted by Lord-Barrington View Post

I'm seen as a curmudgeon in this thread because I constantly bitch about practically everything in the NHL aside from the sport itself. I keep thinking that maybe I should reassess my views, but it's damn hard. The terrible refs, the homer play-by-play guys (would Jack Edwards and Paul Steigerwald have jobs anywhere besides the NHL?) the blind fans, and of course the league itself which often seems to be run like a banana republic (not the store, of course).
Hockey is a wonderful sport but so much of the NHL product is awful.


Calling it awful is a bit of hyperbole, but the game's imperfections are likely why I love it so much. 

 

post #163 of 1719
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Originally Posted by Shoreman View Post

Calling it awful is a bit of hyperbole, but the game's imperfections are likely why I love it so much. 

 


It might be a bit strong but if I consider it as a business product, it's pretty lacklustre.
post #164 of 1719
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Originally Posted by AR_Six View Post

It was Nelson Emerson.There was debate after Hossa's goal last year was called good on video review as to whether it was worse, given the significantly better video review we have now as opposed to 1993.The worst part on the 2nd one is the unbelievable homerism from both commentators who don't even appear to NOTICE that the puck was obviously kicked in (well, not in, it didn't cross the line) until like 5 minutes of replays.

Hahahah these are so awesome. I would love to know what the conversations with the video review guys are like. I can't even make up a witty faux conversation it is just that ridiculous.

I won't go as far as LB to say the NHL is awful but I will say that IIHF is fucking kickass. World Juniors owns, Olympic hockey owns. I would much rather watch games like Finland - Norway than say FLA - Dallas or something.
post #165 of 1719
Really? The reffing in international hockey is notoriously worse. Like bad enough that commentators actually openly discuss it as a factor which will influence the outcome of games, which I haven't often heard in an NHL game.
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