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post #16 of 38
8/2/11 at 8:31am
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Originally Posted by SirGrotius View Post

My recommendation is to use SF for buying Hermes ties. There usually is someone selling a few fairs. I have one that I can't part with. I'm partial to LV ties for some reason, as I love the little diamond pattern. smile.gif

+1. I dated a girl for a bit that worked there and she loaded me up. They have some really cool designs and I am very pleased with the quality. That said, Hermes is making the kop list soon.
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post #17 of 38
8/8/11 at 2:23pm
Thread Starter 

UPDATE...

 

I sent the guy an email letting him know that I would be asking for a refund once I got the tie. This was his response:

 

I guarantee that this is 100% authentic Hermes tie purchased years ago from the authorized Hermes store. I just found that I forgot to provide you picture #5 showing the lining of this tie. You can now see the picture 5 from this link (http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz358/luxury_pmwon/2011_Week30/Hermes_HVYSTCT5.jpg). This tie is special because it was made from a combination of silk and cotton. As you can see the label on the back of the tie is not like any other heavy silk Hermes ties or printed silk ties. Please visit these 2 links for more detail.
- http://www.ggyy5978.com/real.php
- http://reviews.ebay.com/Guide-to-Genuine-Hermes-Ties-Short-History-Ver-04-09_W0QQugidZ10000000002376518

There are other materials that Hermes use in making their ties; cotton, linen, or leather. I've taken 15 pictures from the Hermes catalog to provide you more details about other ties that Hermes has in their stores. 
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz358/luxury_pmwon/Sample_from_Book/Hermes1.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz358/luxury_pmwon/Sample_from_Book/Hermes2.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz358/luxury_pmwon/Sample_from_Book/Hermes3.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz358/luxury_pmwon/Sample_from_Book/Hermes4.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz358/luxury_pmwon/Sample_from_Book/Hermes5.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz358/luxury_pmwon/Sample_from_Book/Hermes6.jpg
....to http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz358/luxury_pmwon/Sample_from_Book/Hermes15.jpg (Please change the number from 1 to 15 as I've limited space here)

There is a similar design to the tie you bought from me showing in the pictures. I hope after you see the pictures, you will be more confident that it's real as stated. Also, I would recommend you visit Hermes store nearby once you receive it.

However, if you are not comfortable keeping the tie, you can send it back for full refund as I promised satisfaction guaranteed. Further questions, please let me know.

Regards,

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post #18 of 38
8/8/11 at 5:53pm
You better get your money back from the seller. He thinks your naive about the tie. The Hermes logo patch on the L'ebay tie looks like it was sewn onto the silk. You can see the crooked edges. Real Hermes ties have the logo printed into the silk along with the patterns of the ties.

The most important thing you overlooked is the model/style number on the tie. Ask the seller what is the model/style number is on your tie? I would start a Paypal resolution before he replies.

Moral of the story is to do your due diligence before making purchases.
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post #19 of 38
8/8/11 at 6:16pm
I'm not an Hermes expert but I think you MIGHT end up owing this guy an apology so don't go ballistic just yet.

I quickly looked at his current listings and nothing about the Hermes, Ferragamo, Gucci, Armani, Fendi, and Zegna ties rings an alarm. I have one or two of each and they look fairly similar. He's selling almost all used ties at opening bids of mostly $19.99 to $24.99. I'm having a hard time imagining a counterfeiter bothering with that.

The Hermes logo looked odd to me because it was so far down on the narrow blade but the Hermes book you linked shows that some of their ties have it there. And the tie on the 9th sample page looks very similar to yours.

I suggest taking it to an Hermes boutique. That logo sure is sloppy looking though...
Edited by HomerJ - 8/8/11 at 6:28pm
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post #20 of 38
8/8/11 at 7:24pm

i think there is a difference between the whimsical patterns and others... don't write of that hermes just yet

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post #21 of 38
8/8/11 at 7:55pm
This tie is real.
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post #22 of 38
8/8/11 at 7:56pm
Now the thread gets interesting.
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post #23 of 38
8/8/11 at 7:58pm
Im serious.
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post #24 of 38
8/8/11 at 8:03pm
I don't doubt it. My guess is that you've seen more Hermes ties than most, both real and fake, and have a good eye for such things.
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post #25 of 38
8/8/11 at 8:06pm
Lining and handiwork looks real, but what about this info?
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•The Tie Stay on the back of the tie is ALWAYS Embroidered with The Hermes Horse & Carriage Logo... NEVER... will the words "Hermes Paris" appear under the Horse & Carriage, unless you are purchasing a Scarf Pattern Tie. ONLY the Scarf Pattern Ties will have the words present. Figural ties will NEVER have the words on the tie stay. This one left is fake, while the one on the right is correct.

The tie doesn't look like a scarf pattern tie.

And what about this?
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•ALL Authentic Hermes Ties have an Alpha-Numeric Code approximately 5" up fom the small point end of the tie. This Code will consist of a three or four digit Number that denotes he pattern code, followed by two Letters that denote the design factory (SA, FA, HA, OA, PA, TA, EA, IA, MA, or UA.) The Color of the Box that encloses the code will generally match with a color from the front figural pattern, and it will ALWAYS contain the words: "MADE IN FRANCE" above the code and "100% SOIE" below the code. The letters are always CAPITALIZED. This is what is SHOULD look like....
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post #26 of 38
8/8/11 at 8:09pm
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Lining and handiwork looks real, but what about this info?



The tie doesn't look like a scarf pattern tie.

This is where you need hands on experience, not just inter web 101.

Hermes scarf ties have this labels, but what most of you don't know is that their woven ties also bear this label, and have the woven Hermes in the skinny end like this one does. 99% of what you see for resale on eBay is the horse and carriage silk twill ties, but their woven ties, like this one, are a unique breed. You don't see them often. Id sell this any day as authentic, and purchase it as such. I have had over 30 of these woven ties, and still do. Im in shorts and t shirts all week at the beach, so I can't take a pic, but someone remind me to next week, I will show you. '
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And what about this?

Strictly for the "mainline" of ties. That quote you quoted is from someone who knows only the whimsical ties.
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post #27 of 38
8/8/11 at 8:11pm
Spoo, you always follow through... Veritable SF patron saint!
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post #28 of 38
8/8/11 at 8:13pm
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post


This is where you need hands on experience, not just inter web 101.

Hermes scarf ties have this labels, but what most of you don't know is that their woven ties also bear this label, and have the woven Hermes in the skinny end like this one does. 99% of what you see for resale on eBay is the horse and carriage silk twill ties, but their woven ties, like this one, are a unique breed. You don't see them often. Id sell this any day as authentic, and purchase it as such. I have had over 30 of these woven ties, and still do. Im in shorts and t shirts all week at the beach, so I can't take a pic, but someone remind me to next week, I will show you.

I am proven right on two counts.
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post #29 of 38
8/8/11 at 8:13pm

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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post
This is where you need hands on experience, not just inter web 101.

Hermes scarf ties have this labels, but what most of you don't know is that their woven ties also bear this label, and have the woven Hermes in the skinny end like this one does. 99% of what you see for resale on eBay is the horse and carriage silk twill ties, but their woven ties, like this one, are a unique breed. You don't see them often. Id sell this any day as authentic, and purchase it as such. I have had over 30 of these woven ties, and still do. Im in shorts and t shirts all week at the beach, so I can't take a pic, but someone remind me to next week, I will show you. '


this +1... i have seen plenty of what spoo is describing in Hermes stores around the world, the last time i remember seeing was in the airport in london, terminal 3!!!

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post #30 of 38
8/8/11 at 8:18pm
Yes, the tie in the original post is real.

Hermes uses that black label on their non-printed ties, including the woven jacquard and silk/cotton blends.

Also note the seller is dealing exclusively in used merchandise, and is able to obtain top market prices and maintain 100% positive feedback which is usually a good sign.

Typically NWT branded stuff coming out of S.E. Asia requires some scrutiny, but there are a good amount of small collectors/vendors of the authentic stuff on Ebay from these countries as well.
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