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Lesser 11oz.: Where's The Love?

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I've heard murmurs around SF on how Lesser's 11oz. book isn't comparable to their Super Tropical or 13oz. offerings. Can someone, with experience with the fabric, please comment on why this is so. An answer more instructive that just "it has no guts" would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Gramm
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http://thelondonlounge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9804&hilit=lesser&start=15
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Re: When is Lesser lesser?
by old henry » Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:15 am

You are so so right , Michael - the 11oz H.Lesser book has a very weak hand. It is not quite an Italian cloth but-- a disappointment. I must say however that the other H.Lesser books cannot be beat. And just to vent my frustration - The new Alsport tweed by John G. Hardy is also very , very disappointing . Also regarding Tip Top. If you are going to pay your tailor to spend many precious hours of his life making you a handmade suit - you should most certainly use good English goods. Tip Top is not . Frank .
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Re: When is Lesser lesser?
by dopey » Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:38 pm

Sadly, I agree, having learned the hard way. I have a suit from the 11/12oz book, which I chose because I was looking for a very specific pattern and the version I most preferred was from that book. Made up, the cloth tends to be droopier and wrinklier than I would have liked. The cloth isn't flimsy or frail, and the appearance is otherwise quite good, but it requires more frequent pressing than I care to give it. It certainly doesn't have the high, real world performance I usually get from Lesser cloths. On the other hand, if you view that property as a feature rather than a bug, the 11/12 oz book might be fine for you.
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Just to flesh out the "guts" point, I've tried H&S (wool/cashmere), Harrisons (fine classics), and Lesser (10 oz/13 oz), and IMO the Lesser has a tangibly different feel. It's clearly more matte, more dry, denser, rougher, and less wrinkle prone. Perhaps SF/LL groupthink has brainwashed me into thinking those are positive qualities, but anyone can see that the Lesser cloth is just different. Sounds like the 11 oz is more like the peer brand offerings, as Dopey pointed out in the LL post.
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poorsod: Thanks

sellahi: Frankly, I would consider all those to be positives, and the hallmark of Lessers.
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My first suit from Raphael was from this book and it was my last from that book. I can't say I don't like it, only that I like other similar options considerably more.
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