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post #31 of 39
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

Have you actually read it?

Or are you going to stick to (as you put it) 'word of mouth'?

So you dismiss things out of hand, and then talk about substituting arrogance for intelligece. I'm not sure whether to rolleyes.gif or rotflmao.gif.

Either way - your loss.

I've read it on several occasions. And I re-read it when you posted it. I don't believe it contradicts much of what I've said, in any case; but I also don't regard it as accurate or reliable. That's why we should cut our losses and both you and me get the fuck out of this thread, and go and enjoy Sunday.
post #32 of 39
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In Dressing the Man, Flusser writes, "The whole idea of a formal suit [i.e. tuxedo] is to distinguish itself from the notch-lapel business suit, not replicate it." Flusser declares that a dinner jacket with notched lapels is nothing short of a "sartorial oxymoron, convoluting both the form's aesthetic logic and its promise of timeless elegance." A proper dinner jacket should have peaked lapels, or, for slightly less formal occasions, a shawl collar. As for the white bow tie, that should only ever be worn with tails - hence the classic "white tie and tails" - and should never be satin.

End of thread. Flusser has spoken.
post #33 of 39
What happened to this forum?

It started as a place where you can extract knowledge, now you have to extract the stick out of people's asses first before you get there.
post #34 of 39
500

David, notch; Winthrop, notch; John D. III, DB peak; Nelson, SB peak; Laurance, shawl.
post #35 of 39
I love the look of a deep buttoning shawl double breasted.
post #36 of 39
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pkiula - I am surprised that you started this thread.


You're right, but I'm more surprised than you are. Never imagined my fairly straightforward question to go on for so long in a meandering thread! smile.gif

Ended up getting myself a peak lapel black tux from Ermen Zegna, so purpose served. The notch tux option was from Isaia, whose fit I am beginning to like more, hence the confusion to begin with! I mean, I though if Isaia makes a style, it couldn't be way off base, could it. But that was clearly a faulty line of thought.

I quite like Zegna's fit on me too, so all's well that ends well.

One always picks up something good. That blacktieguide.com website is going to keep me busy for the next hour!

Thanks everyone.
post #37 of 39

No American male under the age of 65 should ever wear peak - notch or shawl only.  Peak is actually a Gilded-Age aberration - as was the Tuxedo itself, and now only the British traditionalists (who curiously enough adopted the American aberration) furiously defend this garish flourish. Peak is on the wane precisely because it is disproportionate to the suit and thus makes most men look ridiculous. Notch or shawl, and preferably notch.

post #38 of 39
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Originally Posted by Alf6 View Post

No American male under the age of 65 should ever wear peak - notch or shawl only.  Peak is actually a Gilded-Age aberration - as was the Tuxedo itself, and now only the British traditionalists (who curiously enough adopted the American aberration) furiously defend this garish flourish. Peak is on the wane precisely because it is disproportionate to the suit and thus makes most men look ridiculous. Notch or shawl, and preferably notch.

Did you really create an account to necromancy a 2 year old thread with this nonsense?
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