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post #6031 of 6348
Has anybody else had issues with the lining in their shoes? All of my shoes have had to get complete new linings because they disintegrated. It isn't an issue as they have been able to replace them at no extra cost to the recraft, but it would be nice to not have them go through this extra work if not needed. I'm curious if it has something to do with my body's chemistry/sweaty feet. Before somebody asks, yes linings, not sock liner.
post #6032 of 6348
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Has anybody else had issues with the lining in their shoes? All of my shoes have had to get complete new linings because they disintegrated. It isn't an issue as they have been able to replace them at no extra cost to the recraft, but it would be nice to not have them go through this extra work if not needed. I'm curious if it has something to do with my body's chemistry/sweaty feet. Before somebody asks, yes linings, not sock liner.

I haven't had any issues with mine.
post #6033 of 6348
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Has anybody else had issues with the lining in their shoes? All of my shoes have had to get complete new linings because they disintegrated. It isn't an issue as they have been able to replace them at no extra cost to the recraft, but it would be nice to not have them go through this extra work if not needed. I'm curious if it has something to do with my body's chemistry/sweaty feet. Before somebody asks, yes linings, not sock liner.

How often do you rotate pairs? Is this only with StC or all makers?

I've worn through the lining (in the heel) but this was with a few pairs of Crockett & Jones many years ago, which I wore day in and day out without proper rotation. I have a friend who also wears through his lining at one particular place all the time, same with all makers, so it's obviously got to do with the shape of his feet.

What do you mean by disintegrated by the way? Sounds very dramatic.
post #6034 of 6348
Only Crispins. I have many pairs and rotate through as one should. The linings basically "shatter". They crack and flake out of the shoe. It is pretty dramatic. The heels I haven't had an issue only the vamp lining.
post #6035 of 6348
I'm curious as to how many people have cracked linings and don't know it. I condition the linings and when I get my hand in there I feel it. I could literally start breaking the lining into hard pieces with my hand.
post #6036 of 6348
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Only Crispins. I have many pairs and rotate through as one should. The linings basically "shatter". They crack and flake out of the shoe. It is pretty dramatic. The heels I haven't had an issue only the vamp lining.

Just a random guess, but maybe that's due to moisture? I have old, old moccasins where that's happened. I basically use them as my house shoes, and sometimes I wear them shortly after coming out of the shower (when my feet are dry, but maybe not as dry as they could be). The lining around the vamp has gotten old and brittle, so it's flaked off in certain places.

Haven't had that happen with any of my other shoes though.
post #6037 of 6348
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Only Crispins. I have many pairs and rotate through as one should. The linings basically "shatter". They crack and flake out of the shoe. It is pretty dramatic. The heels I haven't had an issue only the vamp lining.

And what does your retailer and/or Phillip Car say about it? I'm guessing Phillip would like to see a pair with this issue.

Are you using any type of "foot deodorant" or some other chemical/substance in the shoes? Any care products used inside the shoe?
post #6038 of 6348
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Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post

Just a random guess, but maybe that's due to moisture? I have old, old moccasins where that's happened. I basically use them as my house shoes, and sometimes I wear them shortly after coming out of the shower (when my feet are dry, but maybe not as dry as they could be). The lining around the vamp has gotten old and brittle, so it's flaked off in certain places.

Haven't had that happen with any of my other shoes though.

Hm yeah but I'm not sure it's supposed to act that way despite of this.

Paddy, another thought, do you keep you StC very glossy, with a high shine all over the shoe or are you just having a high shine on the cap? Some makers advise against a high shine all over the shoe as it will prevent the leather from "breathing" properly. It extreme cases some claim the leather has started to deteriorate from within. Never seen this myself though, so can't comment on the validity of this claim.
post #6039 of 6348
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I'm curious as to how many people have cracked linings and don't know it. I condition the linings and when I get my hand in there I feel it. I could literally start breaking the lining into hard pieces with my hand.
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Are you using any type of "foot deodorant" or some other chemical/substance in the shoes? Any care products used inside the shoe?

I wonder if this is because pB conditions the lining.
post #6040 of 6348
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Originally Posted by FrogTO View Post

V cap shape from StC & GG is better than Vass & EG imho

Good choice, wear in good health

Not sure I agree at all with the first point but definitely agree with the second. Really nice shoes.
post #6041 of 6348

Who makes their wax polish?

The description reads "made in france" so I would suspect Saphir.

post #6042 of 6348
I take care of all of my shoes the same way and only Crispins has the problem. I only maintain a shine on the toecap and heel, but still the issue is endemic to Crispins. They certainly know about it because I pointed it out on recraft and they have replaced the linings in all of my shoes. No, I don't use any foot chemicals.
post #6043 of 6348
I have zero issues with either of my calf St. C's and one is a derby boot that isn't babied.
post #6044 of 6348
Get you hands in there and feel around. It's a non issue really because they are fixing it for me, but I'm curious if the issue is widespread.
post #6045 of 6348
I had a pair (out of 5) with cracked linings, I just got them back. The work looks great and as you mentioned it was at no charge to me. I thought it was from them being too dry but if you condition and it happened that can't be it. I have never conditioned there.
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