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Originally Posted by MoosicPa View Post


The 1786 Russian Leather is leather that has been recovered from the bottom of Plymouth Bay from the wreck of the Metta Catherina, which sunk during a storm in 1786. This leather was tanned in the 1700's in Russia using a tanning process that has been lost to history. The leather is not necessarily reindeer, the hides are both reindeer and calf leather. This leather is distinguished by it's unique birch smell, which is still very present even after 230 years, and is cross-hatch grained. The hides were recovered from the ship starting in 1973 until 2011/2012 when the salvager retired. The last bundles recovered were all secured by G. Cleverley in London, and for my money they are currently the only ones with the authentic stuff. The modern Russian leather is usually calf leather embossed to resemble to original Russian Leather.


Wow thanks for such a detailed answer!

 

I did, however, see on Stefano Bemer's IG account that they had some, embossed with 1786. Would that make it original?

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Wow thanks for such a detailed answer!

I did, however, see on Stefano Bemer's IG account that they had some, embossed with 1786. Would that make it original?
I would say no unless you are buying directly from cleverley.
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Bemer has the original 1786 leather. I've only seen it on their bespoke models.
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Don't mean to rehash an old topic, but can someone educate me on difference between 1700's russian reindeer and current russian reindeer?

 

 

Just to add to that last post, the Russia Calf from the sunken brig looks beautiful, but I recall one  purchaser saying that his was quite dry and had eventually cracked.   I guess u buy it for the historical significance and romance; for durability, not so much.  YMMV

 

As to crust hides, there are  positives and negatives.  AFAIK EG uses them because they allow a deeper penetration of dyes and allows them to apply a wonderful variegated finish to all of their non-black shoes. 

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Sounds like i probably prefer to stick to kudu then. haha

 

thanks guys!

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Originally Posted by rbhan12 View Post

Bemer has the original 1786 leather. I've only seen it on their bespoke models.

 

This is correct, although when I visited them last summer I think they only had one hide left. 

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Just to add to that last post, the Russia Calf from the sunken brig looks beautiful, but I recall one  purchaser saying that his was quite dry and had eventually cracked.   I guess u buy it for the historical significance and romance; for durability, not so much.  YMMV

I have a fair amount of 1786 Russian Leather pieces, including a pair of shoes that are 10 years old, and can report that I have not any of them crack. Admittedly they do require some care. I treat the leather with Saphir leather balm every 6 months to prevent it from getting too dry. But considering that I polish my calf leather shoes more often than that, maybe it's not so bad.

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Originally Posted by MoosicPa View Post


I have a fair amount of 1786 Russian Leather pieces, including a pair of shoes that are 10 years old, and can report that I have not any of them crack. Admittedly they do require some care. I treat the leather with Saphir leather balm every 6 months to prevent it from getting too dry. But considering that I polish my calf leather shoes more often than that, maybe it's not so bad.

 


Quite an Impressive collection....You and I have the same Cleverley saddles....But that's all I have when it comes to 1786 Russian....

 

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Quite an Impressive collection....You and I have the same Cleverley saddles....But that's all I have when it comes to 1786 Russian....



Have these been worn?
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Mudder's Day in the wild with The Queen Bee and plain-toe ghillies.

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Love the Ghillie shoes 👍👍 & looking nice chifromdachi
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Mudder's Day in the wild with The Queen Bee and plain-toe ghillies.

Love the look!
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Have these been worn?

In the photo? No. Since then? Yes....but I do admit to not putting them to use as much as I'd like...just one of the hazards of having a large(r) collection I suppose.
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In the photo? No. Since then? Yes....but I do admit to not putting them to use as much as I'd like...just one of the hazards of having a large(r) collection I suppose.

would you post your newest photos?
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Love the look!


Thank you, @rbahn12.

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