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Originally Posted by Anm1984 View Post

I'm not saying your wrong (and I don't own any Lobb) but softer and smoother doesn't equate to being better. The only real way to tell would be to own, wear (in rain as well), and clean each pair for a few years and see how they hold up. St.Crispin also has both smooth and hairy rougher suede depending on what you want.

 

   you're exactly right . . . . softer / smoother only means what it means.

   in my estimation, smooth vs hairy equates to the aesthetic (feel) you're going for

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Originally Posted by Anm1984 View Post

I'm not saying your wrong (and I don't own any Lobb) but softer and smoother doesn't equate to being better. The only real way to tell would be to own, wear (in rain as well), and clean each pair for a few years and see how they hold up. St.Crispin also has both smooth and hairy rougher suede depending on what you want.

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Originally Posted by SoGent View Post

   you're exactly right . . . . softer / smoother only means what it means.
   in my estimation, smooth vs hairy equates to the aesthetic (feel) you're going for

This is probably a topic for another day but between lobb, stC, EG, and GG i believe that lobb has the nicest leather. By nicest i mean the softest, and most comfortable from the beginning. Finish is subjective but lobb finish is also superb.
In terms of durability i cant really comment bc i do have a fair amount of shoes so on avg i will wear a pair about 1x/month sometimes 2x for my favorite pairs, so none of them will wear down any time soon.i have not had any durability issues with any of thrm (other than some crazy creasing on a pair of StC boots).
I do think Lobb has higher quality leather but still own more EGs bc i like broguing and i think EG does that better. For non brogued shoes i prefer Lobb. GG i just dont own many bc of the fit and they are a little too sleek for my taste (nothing to do with quality).
I actually dont own any StC suede but have Lobb and EG, but that Lobb suede is dang smooth (dont mean texture) I just dont know how much better it can get. Unfortunately i cant comment on Bonafe suede as i have never seen it IRL.

Of course this is all IMHO and #firstworldluxuryproblems
Edited by coldinboston - 3/29/16 at 4:50pm
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Ok ok in all honesty I agree with what all you gents have said I am basing my opinion on jodhpur Lobb I bought & return because of sizing issue & I am saying what I said based strictly upon touching the suede of John lobb & stcrispin. Enzo bonafe is a very good shoe best bang for a buck, if you care for such a thing but no wear near stcrispin, John lobb, eg or G&G. But if you count bang for the buck then yes both Vass & Enzo Bonafe can hang with big boys.
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coldinboston I own ample amount of all those brands minus the JL first two pair on order chapel but I will even out soon enough on them specially for the things I like and hoping size works out.
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Originally Posted by TtownMD View Post

coldinboston I own ample amount of all those brands minus the JL first two pair on order chapel but I will even out soon enough on them specially for the things I like and hoping size works out.
Oh i know you do, and i have a hunch that you will own no less than five pairs of Lobbs by the end of the year after you get the chapels :-)

Oh and i should have listened to you and upsized on the rota sport... it feels liked i am wearing tights
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Originally Posted by coldinboston View Post

Oh i know you do, and i have a hunch that you will own no less than five pairs of Lobbs by the end of the year after you get the chapels :-)

Oh and i should have listened to you and upsized on the rota sport... it feels liked i am wearing tights
Lol I told you so if you didn't beat me to it I would of picked up that dark grey rota & also rota sport run even trimmer compare to normal rota pants. You need to get one suede stcrispin kudu lol
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Originally Posted by emiristol View Post
 

 

$300 for resoling, with an additional $35 for the toe tips; done through the armoury in ny. they can either do a half-resole (as seen in my photo) or a full resole, which replaces the pegged waist as well. since the waist doesn't get much (or any) wear at all they recommend just doing the half-resole. 

 

at least in my case, the shoes were fully re-welted and the insole, etc. were all replaced; also the suede was `refreshed' and looked a lot better than when i sent them in. well worth the money in my opinion. turnaround within 3 weeks from sending them in to getting them back, very impressive. 

 

would also like to know this. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by chogall View Post
 

 

They increased the prices :o.  Was $250 for resole w/ toe tips.

 

Did your insole got replaced or just a fresh insole sock liner? 

 

 

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Originally Posted by emiristol View Post
 

 

the higher price might have something to do with the fact that i went through the armoury.

 

as for the insole, now that you mention it, i'm not sure whether it was actually replaced; the sock liner definitely was though. actually, i'm not sure whether it's even possible to replace the insole if only the half-resole was done since both the insole and welt extend back to the heel (i think). 

Great to know and it will be quite a while before I need to get any St. C resoled, but if they do offer a great service for other brands, I'd consider that too, like for my Vass or Enzo Bonafe shoes that are also hand welted. 

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All of the above mentioned companies have great leather so it's almost splitting hairs. Fwiw I think JM Weston has the best leather, prob because they own their own tannery. I know they supply lobb / Hermes with outsoles and some upper leather as well.
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just my two cents on the suede business: my shoe rotation is (compared to most on this site) small and almost entirely suede. i usually end up wearing either my pair of suede lobb lopezes or my SC suede chukkas (the same ones i recently posted pics of) on a day to day basis; i've had both for a couple years and so they've each easily gotten 100+ outings.

 

since i also live seattle and regularly walk 5+ miles each day in often inclement weather, the difference in suedes between brands usually becomes pretty obvious after awhile; of the brands i've tried, lobb and SC are the best imo. lobb's is definitely 'smoother', but i've found that it's a lot more difficult to get stains/whatnot off them than SC's; the SCs are just more hard-wearing. 

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Hello All,

 

Just adding some SC shoeporn here for everyone's enjoyment:

 

 

 

 

 

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Firstly thanks for dissuading the idea that suede can't be worn in rain, it can and should. Secondly I have also found that I can brush out almost anything from St.C suede.
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Originally Posted by Anm1984 View Post

Firstly thanks for dissuading the idea that suede can't be worn in rain, it can and should. Secondly I have also found that I can brush out almost anything from St.C suede.

 

i really don't know why people think suede gets destroyed by rain---on the contrary, it's the best material (bar synthetics) for it! i've completely soaked my SCs suedes in water and after a couple days a quick brush is all it takes to get them back to looking new. even better if a good waterproofing spray is applied, and any loss of color can be reversed by saphir's suede spray

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Originally Posted by emiristol View Post
 

 

i really don't know why people think suede gets destroyed by rain---on the contrary, it's the best material (bar synthetics) for it! i've completely soaked my SCs suedes in water and after a couple days a quick brush is all it takes to get them back to looking new. even better if a good waterproofing spray is applied, and any loss of color can be reversed by saphir's suede spray


All very true.

 

 

First pair of StC just ordered through Skoak.....Saint Crispin's MTO 633 Split toe derby, 633 model, INC 078 grain, Double leather sole, metal toe tips.

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Hello that's a awesome pic of my grille stcrispin shoes 4th one on top 👍👍
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Originally Posted by Murlsquirl View Post


All very true.


First pair of StC just ordered through Skoak.....Saint Crispin's MTO 633 Split toe derby, 633 model, INC 078 grain, Double leather sole, metal toe tips.
what a win.
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