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Originally Posted by MoosicPa View Post

Sorry guys, didn't mean to take this thread down the rabbit hole... frown.gif, but I had to respond to what I perceived as a personal attack by mw313 when he stated that the issues with my shoes were "most likely from hitting the shoe with the heel of the other foot, or banging onto something when walking." He has no idea as to who I am, how I wear my shoes or the circumstances surrounding these issues, but felt compelled to make a diagnosis of the problem anyway, lacking any basic facts.

I take great pride in my shoe collection, shoe my trees, treat them with crème and polish on a regular basis, and most of the shoes I have still look box fresh, even though they have been worn frequently (some more than others). I also have a number of hatch grained shoes/boots from various makers (EG, JLP, G. Cleverley and C&J) and have never had an issue with the finishing coming off the shoe like I have had with the St. C. RUS leather. In fact, I have a 12+ year old pair of C&J I use as my Winter beater boots, and they look a far sight better than the RUS leather shoes after only 3 wears. I suppose if you are into the distressed look, this leather may be perfect for you. I however prefer to keep my shoes looking as close to new as possible.

That being said, this is not a slam on St. C's shoes. I have 20+ pairs of St. C's, and this is the only pair I have had an issue with, and it is not an issue with the shoe but rather the leather. They make a fine shoe, and I would recommend them to anyone, but I would advise against the RUS leather... unless you are interested in spending $1,500.00+ for a shoe with a distressed look. I was very disappointed in the leather, and the response from the vendor.

Lastly, my purpose in posting the pics of the shoes and my experience is to inform the community, so you can make an informed decision before you decide to purchase a RUS leather St. C.

Thanks guys, and sorry for the diversion. facepalm.gif I will try not to let it happen again.

I'm sorry that it offends you. You know by now that I'm not a person to attack others and never have been. I was just giving advice to others so they can see multiple sides of it. I'm a fanatic with shoe care and just wanted to take the chance to help others who could benefit from the situation. We are all here to help others learn and Share out experiences.

I know you have many great posts and beautiful shoes and I'm not doubting your care skills or walking Ability either. These are just easy ways that problems can occur without people even knowing. Truthfully many people bang the inner side of a shoe with out knowing. It doesn't mean you can't walk right but it is just a normal process.
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I hope that the entire situation can now just be solved between moose, Skoak , and st c.
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I hope so too.

 

So guys, I ordered a pair of split-toe StCs.

 

I no longer want to go for Russian calf - so what material/colour do you guys recommend?

 

Ideally a burgundy-ish colour, but completely open to other cool ideas!

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Originally Posted by Solari View Post

I hope so too.

So guys, I ordered a pair of split-toe StCs.

I no longer want to go for Russian calf - so what material/colour do you guys recommend?

Ideally a burgundy-ish colour, but completely open to other cool ideas!

Personally I like this "INC076" grain color. Then there's a few plain calf "CRU" to chose from. Feel free to email us for pictures of swatches.

Edited by Leaves - 1/30/16 at 11:22pm
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^^^ That reminds me a lot of Vass' Red Cognac - very cool shade.

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Originally Posted by Solari View Post

I hope so too.

So guys, I ordered a pair of split-toe StCs.

I no longer want to go for Russian calf - so what material/colour do you guys recommend?

Ideally a burgundy-ish colour, but completely open to other cool ideas!

Last time i looked at the StC leather swatches these are the ones that they had to look at (does not include gator, suede etc..) i am sure there are others that they could get for you
1st swatch book is the shrunken calf
2nd are the crust leather
Last are the grains (buf, inc) and in the right the VNA leathers
Sorry i dont have the numbers on there (have a general idea in my head) but your retailer should know what they are if you show them the pics.
Hope this helps.





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Thanks Leaves and Coldin. Very helpful!

 

I'm kind of leaning towards buffalo actually. I don't see it often enough.

 

Also, so the "Russian calf" from the recent discussion/argument, is that the same as the "shrunken calf" Coldin just referred to in the photo above?

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Originally Posted by Solari View Post

Thanks Leaves and Coldin. Very helpful!

I'm kind of leaning towards buffalo actually. I don't see it often enough.

Also, so the "Russian calf" from the recent discussion/argument, is that the same as the "shrunken calf" Coldin just referred to in the photo above?

Keep in the mind the buf is embossed calf not real buffalo leather. It has a nice texture, made some boots in the dark brown one (078).
The shrunken calf is not the same as the rus people were recently talking about. That being said there was previously conversation about the shrunken calf also having some issues (cant remember what exactly it was, but maybe it was water spots or something) which i believe has since then been addressed. Leaves would be better to answer that.
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There was talk of the shrunken calf spotting in rain. I asked Phillip about it who assured me that there were no widespread problems. I ordered a pair of shrunken calf monks in the darkest brown. I've worn them in the snow and the rain and they look fine. I also have a pair of split toes in BUF. I like the BUF but in retrospect I think a CRU would have been better. The grain distracts from attention that should be on the hand stitching of the apron and toe.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post

There was talk of the shrunken calf spotting in rain. I asked Phillip about it who assured me that there were no widespread problems. I ordered a pair of shrunken calf monks in the darkest brown. I've worn them in the snow and the rain and they look fine. I also have a pair of split toes in BUF. I like the BUF but in retrospect I think a CRU would have been better. The grain distracts from attention that should be on the hand stitching of the apron and toe.

Interesting.

 

CRU being what? The crust leather?

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Yes cru is crust.
Vna is another leather option.
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Originally Posted by coldinboston View Post

Yes cru is crust.
Vna is another leather option.
I know you like suede I would recommend you pull a trigger & get stcrispin suede. You will be very happy smile.gif
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Originally Posted by TtownMD View Post

I know you like suede I would recommend you pull a trigger & get stcrispin suede. You will be very happy smile.gif

I will look at them once i figure out how to work the suede in my normal casual rotation (i cant see doing suede at work with suits or odd jacket/pants as i am not that fashion forward at work). I still have a StC MTO pending but other that i am on a stC hiatus for an inderminate amount of time as i just like my EGs better. Also been doing some TD with Steve.
I also really liked the Lobbs that I got a lot and i will be expanding there, probably by request bc a lot of their current models are not impressive but some of the older models available by request are very nice. Do try to get at least one lobb other than your jodphour (sp?). I am quite sure you will get hooked also bc the quality is top notch and evident right away.

So i will come back to StC once i look for another suede or maybe if they can source some nice museum leather for me...
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Originally Posted by coldinboston View Post

Last time i looked at the StC leather swatches these are the ones that they had to look at (does not include gator, suede etc..) i am sure there are others that they could get for you
1st swatch book is the shrunken calf
2nd are the crust leather
Last are the grains (buf, inc) and in the right the VNA leathers
Sorry i dont have the numbers on there (have a general idea in my head) but your retailer should know what they are if you show them the pics.
Hope this helps.






This is great help.
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My button up boots with cotton/cashmere cords by Cucinelli. The lack of snow this winter in Toronto has been a blessing for my StC soles.


Edited by PCee47 - 2/1/16 at 6:11am
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