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post #5176 of 6165

Shit, I'm at the back of the line for Moosic's craptastic St. C.'s!

post #5177 of 6165
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post
 

LOL. You ain't buying anything. Am I right, @rydenfan ??


not unless they are able to be cancelled or returned 

post #5178 of 6165
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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post


not unless they are able to be cancelled or returned 

no comments LOL.
post #5179 of 6165
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Originally Posted by Leaves View Post

I don't think this is a fair description of how we acted in the matter. I believe our response was more detailed. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

I found your response to be rather dismissive and unconcerned. Also unusual in that you responded to a post I made on SF through Instagram.
post #5180 of 6165
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Originally Posted by MoosicPa View Post



Yes my St. C's Russian Leather looks like crap after their first wear and complete garbage after their third wear. According to Skoaktiebolaget (my retailer) all I had to do was throw some burgundy polish on them and all would be great sarcasm.gif.... Not really, they still look like garbage. I have relegated them to the back of my closet at this point, doubt I will wear them again.

My exact experience with Saint Crispin's Russian Leather. I'm surprised a company that prides themselves so much on their craft doesn't seem to be willing to make it right. Sadly mine have been sitting in the back of my closet for a month.
post #5181 of 6165
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Originally Posted by MoosicPa View Post

I found your response to be rather dismissive and unconcerned. Also unusual in that you responded to a post I made on SF through Instagram.

I'm sorry you feel that way. Clearly we need to improve our communication with our clients to meet the good reputation I believe we have as a retailer. I stated in this thread that I wanted @DouglasE's opinion as he has worn his StC Russian Calf way more than I have, the answers can be seen below, previously posted in this thread. I also made a comment through Instagram and sent it to you because that was my personal experience of the leather, but I have used my pair considerably less than Douglas. Again, sorry if you feel we have lacked in commitment or service.

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Originally Posted by DouglasE View Post

Pictures of my StC's in russian calf. As I said I've used these atleast 20 times during a period of over 3 months. I've used Bick 4 once and neutral Burgol pomade once plus medium brown and burgundy polish a couple of times. I agree that the russian calf needs a bit more maintenance to look good. 
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Originally Posted by DouglasE View Post

Hello,

Skoaktiebolaget team member Douglas here. I have a pair of 575 in russian which I have used atleast 20 times since they arrived 3 months ago. That includes job, university and even nights out. I agree that the initial polish disappear quite easy and that the shoe gets more scuffs than most calfs. I have polished mine more than usual over the whole shoe, and it looks good. I'm also extra careful with my brushing when coming home. I have used medium brown and burgundy polish.

Unfortunately I can't provide any pictures at the moment since i'm on vacation, but within a week I can do so.
post #5182 of 6165

I think that everyone who has this leather should post their pairs so people can make their own judgement, but it seems like the general consensus is that it just takes more work to maintain them than other types of leather because the leather doesn't seem to hold the dye as well as other leathers. 

 

I have heard that the main problem is with this actual shade and not really when this leather in other darker colors is used. 

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W8. People just waking up to SC's leather quality? Damn.

My G&G hatch grain doesnt suffer from finishing peeling off like SC. So the problem is not likely with the leather but how finishing is applied.
post #5184 of 6165
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Originally Posted by mw313 View Post

I think that everyone who has this leather should post their pairs so people can make their own judgement, but it seems like the general consensus is that it just takes more work to maintain them than other types of leather because the leather doesn't seem to hold the dye as well as other leathers. 

I have heard that the main problem is with this actual shade and not really when this leather in other darker colors is used. 

The only time I've seen folks defend it is if they sell Saint Crispin's or if they are Saint Crispin's. I believe those are two very strong conflicts of interest. I don't believe the issue is with Skoaktiebolaget or any reflection on their staff/store, although they defend the quality they have mentioned an inquiry to Saint Crispin's which tells me that this is a quality problem but Saint Crispin's doesn't wish to take the burden/cost of fixing.
post #5185 of 6165
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

W8. People just waking up to SC's leather quality? Damn.

My G&G hatch grain doesnt suffer from finishing peeling off like SC. So the problem is not likely with the leather but how finishing is applied.
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look at teh
zonkey boot thread
at teh hatchgrain chukka
fail finishing
as it nears the top
is the same kind
fail finishing
(maybe not
surprising since
they are kissing
cousins)

the type of
tannage means
that other processes
have to be used
to prevent michael jackson
shoes
and some shoemakers
are more...
skilled
than others
post #5186 of 6165
Isn't this type of leather a nicer form of corrected grain leather? If so, how can we expect this type of leather to absorb pigments/dyes from cream polish?
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^
that ain;t
it
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Does anyone know the difference between zonkey boot and saint crispin's in terms of quality? I've read briefly about a separation between the two owners but Zonkey boot offers some shoes that look to be on par with Saint Crispin's.
https://www.zonkeyboot.com/shop/onefourzero-abbas/
Edited by skywalker - 1/26/16 at 5:17pm
post #5189 of 6165
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

My G&G hatch grain doesnt suffer from finishing peeling off like SC. So the problem is not likely with the leather but how finishing is applied.

I don't know where StC sources it's hatchgrain leather from and if it's the same Horween leather which is used by G&G and other English firms.

When the Horween leather was initially released and made-up as shoes, it had significant problems with the finish wearing off. G&G had to strip all the hides and re-dye them. Alfred Sargent (who didn't use the leather a great deal) had the same problems with the finish wearing off as StC has.

Whether Horween has solved the problem now, or G&G still has to re-dye al the hides, I would't know. Presumably StC ought to be doing the same thing, but might not be willing to do that.
post #5190 of 6165
That's my guess as well from leather swatch vs finished shoes.

But no worries, follow hanger projects presidential shoe shine to strip finish off brand new shoes! Popular forum products can finally work together once in a faded blue moon.
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