Thanks! The ridgeway sole will be a much better choice for snow and ice. It looks more obvious on the boot, but adds real traction. I like Danite alot, but it can be slippery on ice.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm currently trying to choose between this one and two others.
Back in those days people also traveld by horse buggy.
Not eventhing in the past was better than it is now.
Progress has it's good sides, quality rubber soles are one of them.
In foul weather conditions, in shoes with leather soles your feet will cool faster, they will get wet pretty easily and you will have less traction.
Sure you can limit the damage to the soles if you care for them after every single wear, but it takes a lot of effort.
I agree with what fritzl told me, people care too much about design and too little about function.
Seems as if most StC customers wear their boots more on carpets than outsides.
In snow I'd much rather wear a rubber soled paprika than this StC monstrosity.
Also, spending $1000+ on a pair of RTW shoes only to threat them to a sole change right away is, sorry, plain stupid.
sole change right away on a $1000+ rtw shoe is stupid? im not following you
about a year ago, their was a rubber vs leather debate and after pages of back and forth amongst some very knowledgable shoe gurus, including fritzl, dwf12, & bengal_stripe, it was unclear which option was superior in adverse conditions. both rubber and leather each have their own pro's and con's in damp, wet, snowy conditions. dainite is water resistant so no fear of water damage to outsole however as dwf12 pointed out, it is leather and not dainite that has more traction is wet and also icy conditions. ive been able to confirm this and just the other day i slid on my dainite C&J coniston boots where my leather outsoled alden boots never had a problem.
also fritzl swears by leather so im unsure where youre getting all that jazz from. try comparing both leather and rubber firsthand and i think youll realize how misinformed your statements are.
btw, JB lives in Boston, MA area. i think he knows a thing or two about walking in snow
I can attest to what Ejirardo said above. The initial crease is very apparent after the first wear, then it doesn't crease anymore. To me however, the initial crease is not that bad, but then again I take care of my shoes pretty well (polishing them once a week if I'm not busy).
Not your fault StC messed up your order, only I would not have accepted the pair the way it came out.
Guess you were not willing to wait for months to get a properly made pair, still StC should compensate you for their fault.
Regarding the nasty posts of mine you are reffering to, feel free to PM to me which ones you mean and we can have a discussion about them, I am open to any criticism.
We were talking about snow by the way, something a structured sole will always have more traction on than a plain (leather) sole.
Regarding ice, please explain to me how a leather sole should have more traction on it than a rubber sole.
Ice is just too tough for any regular sole to penetrate it, thus they should all be same as slippy.
Btw, I spoke to fritzl over the phone, just like he has done to several other members he told me.
Did you get a discount?
I'll be posting some of my SC collection once I am back in the country....
Also - I can't seem to find a John Lobb (Paris) appreciation thread. Is there such a thread?
Here are some pics of the pair on the classic last I have owned for approximately 6 months worn 2 to 3 times per month. The creasing has not gotten worse from the first few times these were worn. They are as comfortable as my Bontoni's and that's saying alot. Sorry for the bad lighting.
Most likely some manufacturing process flaw. Many examples of heavy creasing. Wish POSH is still around to explain.
A shame, she shared some of the most informative insides on shoe making with us.
Everyone capable of the German language should have a look at newsaboutshoes, plenty of posts over there to learn from.