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post #2386 of 2537
I guess I have had the pair being sent out for about a year. That's pretty standard for me. I have another ~year old pair that's probably due soon I'll and out next month maybe. As to the price and what I am getting I'm actually not sure. I just dropped them at Leffot to take care of. I told them whatever the price is to just charge to my card on file. I guess I'll let you know when I get the bill! They said it is a half sole replacement and they also replace the welt. Makes sense as it is a pegged waist. I remember DW saying that a half sole is better when the waist is pegged.
post #2387 of 2537

They needed a resole after only a year? How many times did you wear them, roughly? I have never heard of Rendenbach soles getting worn out that quickly.

post #2388 of 2537
patrick, how often are you wearing those to go through soles in a year - x times per week / month?
post #2389 of 2537
All of my shoes have JR soles. A year is standard for me. This is NYC. I walk a lot.
post #2390 of 2537
I walk about 15 miles a week average. Sometimes much more.
post #2391 of 2537
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I guess I have had the pair being sent out for about a year. That's pretty standard for me. I have another ~year old pair that's probably due soon I'll and out next month maybe. As to the price and what I am getting I'm actually not sure. I just dropped them at Leffot to take care of. I told them whatever the price is to just charge to my card on file. I guess I'll let you know when I get the bill! They said it is a half sole replacement and they also replace the welt. Makes sense as it is a pegged waist. I remember DW saying that a half sole is better when the waist is pegged.

Cool, would be interested to know the actual cost for resoling, but I'm fairly certain it will be much more reasonable than say JL/Hermes.
post #2392 of 2537
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Originally Posted by Tony Montana View Post

They needed a resole after only a year? How many times did you wear them, roughly? I have never heard of Rendenbach soles getting worn out that quickly.

Here's why Austro-Hungarian shoes get my vote: they usually have thicker leather soles than those used on fancy pairs elsewhere. Another way around the challenge is to have pairs made or resoled with HAF-soles, which have double thickness at the front and single thickness on the waist.
post #2393 of 2537
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Originally Posted by joiji View Post

I generally wear 10.5UK, do StC's fit true to general UK sizing or large/small?

EDIT: 44.5 Vass F/P2, 10.5 Carmina Forest.

As always the answer is, it depends. I wear an 11 UK in G&G, Anthony Cleverly, and C&J, but a 10.5 in St. C.
post #2394 of 2537
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Originally Posted by Tony Montana View Post

They needed a resole after only a year? How many times did you wear them, roughly? I have never heard of Rendenbach soles getting worn out that quickly.

On concrete, Rendenbach outsoles can wear as fast or faster than many another...simply because they are so flinty/brittle. The Valona tannage (acorn caps) assures that. They'll certainly wear faster than a Baker outsole.

The reason why rubber outsoles last longer than leather, esp. in wetter conditions, is that the rubber itself tend to yield and conform to irregularities in the pavement that would abrade a harder material. The same principle applies to flintier leathers.

I like JR outsoles but they are not the end all/be all of leather outsoles...Baker is better IMO, and Masur Belgian chestnut outsoling is as good as or better than Baker, in my view.
post #2395 of 2537
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Originally Posted by VRaivio View Post

Here's why Austro-Hungarian shoes get my vote: they usually have thicker leather soles than those used on fancy pairs elsewhere. Another way around the challenge is to have pairs made or resoled with HAF-soles, which have double thickness at the front and single thickness on the waist.

Isn't StC Austro Hungarian?
post #2396 of 2537
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

On concrete, Rendenbach outsoles can wear as fast or faster than many another...simply because they are so flinty/brittle. The Valona tannage (acorn caps) assures that. They'll certainly wear faster than a Baker outsole.

The reason why rubber outsoles last longer than leather, esp. in wetter conditions, is that the rubber itself tend to yield and conform to irregularities in the pavement that would abrade a harder material. The same principle applies to flintier leathers.

I like JR outsoles but they are not the end all/be all of leather outsoles...Baker is better IMO, and Masur Belgian chestnut outsoling is as good as or better than Baker, in my view.

My Gaziano's, when I owned them, had Baker soles and they lasted me 2 years. That says a lot.
post #2397 of 2537
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I guess I have had the pair being sent out for about a year. That's pretty standard for me. I have another ~year old pair that's probably due soon I'll and out next month maybe. As to the price and what I am getting I'm actually not sure. I just dropped them at Leffot to take care of. I told them whatever the price is to just charge to my card on file. I guess I'll let you know when I get the bill! They said it is a half sole replacement and they also replace the welt. Makes sense as it is a pegged waist. I remember DW saying that a half sole is better when the waist is pegged.

And Topyed you would not be going for that expense or having the shoes destroyed with expensive half soling.
post #2398 of 2537

I guess the only difference then would be that you would be cheaply destroying the shoes with a topy...

post #2399 of 2537
sstomcat, I cannot really say. They are made in Romania but most pairs don't have the somewhat thicker leather soles or wider welts I've come to associate with the A-H school of shuumaking. I'm sure there are other details and methods, but soles and welts are easy to spot by anyone. One of the cordwainers at Calzoleria F&F, who I interviewed some months ago, was trained in Romania and he probably would know about Crispin's style. They are members on SF, do send a message.
post #2400 of 2537
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Originally Posted by meister View Post

And Topyed you would not be going for that expense or having the shoes destroyed with expensive half soling.

I'd also look like a douchebag wearing topied shoes. $2,000 shell shoes with a topy to avoid resoling expense... rolleyes.gif

Also, "having shoes destroyed with expensive half soling"? You have no clue what you're talking about.
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