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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post


Or maybe I should just kill 2 birds with one stone and go for the Model #585 double buckle boot or #541 double buckle chukka

I like the 116 chukka a lot.

It's a 3 eyelet and I grabbed mine in brown nubuck on a dainite.

amazing shoes.
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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

Ordering mate, so I will have a peek

That's the hardest part for me with so many shoes that I want.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Appearance of imperfections, to me at least, is unrelated to quality. To me quality means durability and longevity. As far as I know there's no difference between the leather they use for different colors.

As for the difference between EG and G&G leathers they are different for sure. Not sure how that differs in terms of quality, but id assume the leather is different for workability and aesthetic reasons and not lower quality.

One thing I've always wondered was why many shoe manufacturers use such stuff leather as opposed to softer stuff. My logic can be way off on this, but I think of something really hard and stiff bring able to break easier than something soft and loose.

 

By that logic, my $10 leather gloves from Home Depot must have very high quality as they survived more water and mud than any of my shoes.

 

p.s., JL leather is much softer wearing than EG or G&G IME, but that could be due to variations in construction.

 

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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post
 

Frankly, given what I do know about the brand, I find the suggestion that St. C. would opt to use lower quality leather on their black shoes quite preposterous.

 

And as for leather quality being inferior to EG?  No freaking way.  And I say that as a huge fan and multiple owner of EG shoes.

 

I dont think they opt to use any lower quality leather but it just happens that my black pair feels is more wrinkle prone and less lustrous than my other SC or other high-end shoes.

 

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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post


Curious about this statement. Why would color dictate leather quality? Also I've had no issues polishing. Any of my pictures can attest to that.

 

I did not make myself clear.  Aside from the color variations, the leather on my black SC has more wrinkles/creasing at the side/quarter area, less lustrous, easier marked/dented than my other SC or other high-end shoes.

 

YMMV.

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Originally Posted by SoGent View Post
 

I have the 505 and luv it. the only other monk I would obsess over is if JLobb brought their Vail model back.

585 is interesting, without some of the contrast stitching I've seen but cannot see a chukka being any better than RogerP's # 524 example.  wholecut viola would be a keeper.

 

and add the 548 boot this fall

 

Cheers my man, I am seriously digging those shoes.  A wholecut is high on the list for my second pair.

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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post
 

 

Cheers my man, I am seriously digging those shoes.  A wholecut is high on the list for my second pair.

 

   I imagine you are Roger and rightfully so.

 

   Question please, if I could use your eyes for a minute.

   Have you noticed the Marraca suede shoe i'm seeing on Leather Foot's site ?

   If so, what's your opinion ? The nap appears pretty short as if it's almost a distressed suede.

 

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I see what you mean from the pic, unfortunately that isn't one that I looked over closely when I was last in the store - but I will get an eyes-on report for you when I next stop in.
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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post

I see what you mean from the pic, unfortunately that isn't one that I looked over closely when I was last in the store - but I will get an eyes-on report for you when I next stop in.

 

   that would be helpful if you wouldn't mind

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I did not make myself clear.  Aside from the color variations, the leather on my black SC has more wrinkles/creasing at the side/quarter area, less lustrous, easier marked/dented than my other SC or other high-end shoes.

YMMV.

It could be the "finishing" On the box there are different variations of this, for example CRU, or FUN. I have both, FUN is definitely softer and more wrinkle prone and has an interesting luster. I am not sure what the actual difference is though. Something I plan on asking Philip out of curiosity. FWIW, I like both.

But, I think the idea that any leather that wrinkles more is inferior is misguided. I think it could be, but it depends on what part of the hide it is cut from as well as tanning and finishing.
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Does anybody know if Saint Crispins has done a model like the Edward Green Oundle? I'd like a monk like that made by Saint Crispins.

Also does anybody know how willing they are to change patterns on the shoes slightly? For example model 535 is a balmoral. Is it possible to get it without the peak on the side, and even by the vamp make the galosh look a bit more traditional?

Rather than this:

535-e1389549725763.jpg

More like this:

Balmoral+Oxford+with+Medalion.jpg
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The patterns they will change as I originally wanted a simply with fake seams that Phillip showed me a picture of though he talked me out of it.

Not sure on monk
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Does anybody know if Saint Crispins has done a model like the Edward Green Oundle? I'd like a monk like that made by Saint Crispins.

Also does anybody know how willing they are to change patterns on the shoes slightly? For example model 535 is a balmoral. Is it possible to get it without the peak on the side, and even by the vamp make the galosh look a bit more traditional?
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Rather than this:

535-e1389549725763.jpg

More like this:

Balmoral+Oxford+with+Medalion.jpg

They will make such changes, at a cost. I have done similar things before. This is what I like most with StC apart from craftsmanship and quality of course - they are extremely flexible.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Does anybody know if Saint Crispins has done a model like the Edward Green Oundle? I'd like a monk like that made by Saint Crispins.

Also does anybody know how willing they are to change patterns on the shoes slightly? For example model 535 is a balmoral. Is it possible to get it without the peak on the side, and even by the vamp make the galosh look a bit more traditional?

Rather than this:

535-e1389549725763.jpg

More like this:

Balmoral+Oxford+with+Medalion.jpg

 

I am sure they could, at a charge.  What I am not sure is the outcome of the pattern change; are you going to lower the balmoral line to the bottom of the peak?  or are you removing the peak and moving the balmoral line up? 

 

That SC pair's balmoral line is very very shallow and the only reason it works is the downward pointing peak to balance and give some depth to the shallow horizontal line.

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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

I am sure they could, at a charge.  What I am not sure is the outcome of the pattern change; are you going to lower the balmoral line to the bottom of the peak?  or are you removing the peak and moving the balmoral line up? 

That SC pair's balmoral line is very very shallow and the only reason it works is the downward pointing peak to balance and give some depth to the shallow horizontal line.

Yeah, I am not really sure. If I went that route I would leave it to them to make it work.
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Originally Posted by SoGent View Post

 

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   I imagine you are Roger and rightfully so.

 

   Question please, if I could use your eyes for a minute.

   Have you noticed the Marraca suede shoe i'm seeing on Leather Foot's site ?

   If so, what's your opinion ? The nap appears pretty short as if it's almost a distressed suede.

Very very nice colors.

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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Does anybody know if Saint Crispins has done a model like the Edward Green Oundle? I'd like a monk like that made by Saint Crispins.

Also does anybody know how willing they are to change patterns on the shoes slightly? For example model 535 is a balmoral. Is it possible to get it without the peak on the side, and even by the vamp make the galosh look a bit more traditional?

Rather than this:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
535-e1389549725763.jpg

More like this:

Balmoral+Oxford+with+Medalion.jpg



I have asked Saint Crispins this same question perviously about a similar style in my case it was the G&G Warwick.

Saint Crispins said they could do it but at the end I didn't order it and just opted for the G&G option. As with any pattern change it's alway a risk how it will turn out.
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