I was never insinuating that anyone should cash in his 401K and fly across the pond to order bespoke shoes. What I said in my original post is that if you are in NY and willing to shell out $1700 for a pair of shoes you might want to consider going bespoke for the price or less. E Vogel makes bespoke shoes.
I have nothing against St. Crispin but I learned a long time ago that a fit ca be a very tricky. Some ten years ago I would testified under the oath that Aleen Edmonds last no 5 is a best fit for me. It was not. I have tried everything in that last, balmorals, open style derby shoes, boots, whoelcut shoes, in the end I cam to the realization that last just does not fit me.
I had a same experience with EG lasts 82 and 888 respectively. When I tried them for the first time they seemed OK, I wore them for couple of hours and they seemed OK, only when I wore them for the full day I realized that they do not fit, it fact they hurt my feet so bad they are practical unwearable without some padding below my forefoot. Edward Green even sent me those full length insoles but they did not help either.
Anyways this is St. Crispin appreciation thread and I am going to keep it that way. Next time I visit NY, I will drop by the Leffot and check out St. Crispin shoes. I will give them a fair try. The only poroblem is that I have more than enough of all kinds of shoes I find it hard to justify spending that much money but who knows a something might catch my eye.