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post #1051 of 2158
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Originally Posted by gusvs View Post

The wholecuts look great (the ones on the platform picture above, right?). Do you think they fit more comfortably due to the fact that they are shell, which tends to give more?

I was thinking about this and my feelings are opposite of your intuition. I think shell tends to give less. Since it doesn't bend as easily it doesn't put as much strain on the foot it seems. Or it could be that StC just accounts for type of leather when lasting. For example with calf they last it tighter (or maybe just because it is easier to do with calf) to account for stretching, whereas shell isn't going to stretch all that much. As of right now the calf pair that I have feel a bit tight in the ball and hurt the tops of my toes. I think after I wear them a bit this will go away, but the other two shell pairs that I have don't do this. Also the shell pair that I have had for a few months now haven't seemed to stretch all that much. Calf generally loosens up quite a bit in my experience.
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creasing on the captoe?

Second time with my feet in them and there does seem to be some creasing in the lower captoe area. You can see in this photo below the left shoe looks more prominent. When I get my hand inside of it and feel around I notice a couple one things. First, the toe puff seems a lot softer than on many of my lower prices shoes (all leather?) Also, the toe puff ends short of the captoe itself allowing it to bend past the stitching. Not sure if this is a conscious move on their part, but the cap itself seems bigger than on other brands classic captoe. FWIW, my shell punch captoes don't do this, but I attribute that more to it being shell and it doesn't bend as easy. FWIW, these are the slightly tight ball of foot ones. I think thinking once they stretch and loosen up the secondary creases towards the cap area will not be as severe and the sight might be reduced with some cream. Can't hurt to address it with Philip in two weeks when I see him. See below a pic of the shoes flexed and flat:


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Question: Do we know anything about the calf that StC uses for their shoes? What tannery, standards, etc?
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Ethan form rugged old salt also has this crease

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It is right where the toe puff ends. Doesn't bother me honestly. If they were bespoke it would.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I was thinking about this and my feelings are opposite of your intuition. I think shell tends to give less. Since it doesn't bend as easily it doesn't put as much strain on the foot it seems. Or it could be that StC just accounts for type of leather when lasting. For example with calf they last it tighter (or maybe just because it is easier to do with calf) to account for stretching, whereas shell isn't going to stretch all that much. As of right now the calf pair that I have feel a bit tight in the ball and hurt the tops of my toes. I think after I wear them a bit this will go away, but the other two shell pairs that I have don't do this. Also the shell pair that I have had for a few months now haven't seemed to stretch all that much. Calf generally loosens up quite a bit in my experience.

Come to think of it, you are probably right!

Was there any particular reason you went with shell, other than looks?
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It is right where the toe puff ends. Doesn't bother me honestly. If they were bespoke it would.

very strange, why wouldn't they end the toe puff in line with the cap toe, much nicer visually.
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Originally Posted by gusvs View Post

Come to think of it, you are probably right!

Was there any particular reason you went with shell, other than looks?

Ease of care, durability.
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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

very strange, why wouldn't they end the toe puff in line with the cap toe, much nicer visually.
I think if they ended it with the stitches the vamp wouldn't be able to bend as freely. I think it is more a question of style having a large captoe than a short puff.
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

Badsha, Mr. Pink, could you talk more about your fitting, process, examples of measurements taken? I would have loved to attend the trunk show

My answers are much the same as the others. I own one pair of St Crispins. Phillip checked the fit on my foot both sitting and standing, then watched me walk around in them a bit. I spent some time talking to him about the shoes and making choices about what I wanted to order while wearing the shoes. I'd just spent two hours driving from San Diego, so he wanted to see if my feet would swell a bit. Then we went through the same process again. After that, Phillip had me take the shoes off so he could look at the shape of my foot. No measurements taken.
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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

very strange, why wouldn't they end the toe puff in line with the cap toe, much nicer visually.
I think if they ended it with the stitches the vamp wouldn't be able to bend as freely. I think it is more a question of style having a large captoe than a short puff.

but the captoe doesn't seem that large nor long....
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Originally Posted by chobochobo View Post



 

Very nice.

 

I really like the type of leather being used here.

 

Hatch Grain?

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Originally Posted by laufer View Post

Wow I must admit I did not care for St. Crispin's shoes up to this point. Maybe its because I already have a pair of Maftei shoes. However this model pictured above is wonderful. Is there a name for this model?
Thank you for the assistance and nice choice.

Thanks. Not sure of the name or the model number. I just grabbed the picture off Ethan from the Armoury's Tumbler and showed it to Phillip.
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Guys, I am on the verge of getting some Saint Crispins. I wear a 41.5 for Vass F last; will a UK7.5D fit me for Saint Crispins?Been hearing that we should size down. I wear a UK8E on the EG888 but its slighly long. Will appreciate some advise =)

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Originally Posted by dddrees View Post

Very nice.

I really like the type of leather being used here.

Hatch Grain?

The code for it is 'RUS'
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The code for it is 'RUS'

 

Thank you.

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