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What about recraft? SC uses machine stitched outsole (despite its handmade claim) therefore the welt needs to be replaced after a few resoles like most GY welted shoes...
Just curious about this statement, because I think Saint Crispin's say it's hand welted, and not "100% handmade claim". As far as my little understanding of shoes, their "Genuine hand welted shoes" claim refers to how they stretch the leather over the last by hand and welting it right?
Feel free to correct/educate me if I'm mistaken with some terms. Regardless, handmade or machine-made, I'm a fan of their style and comfort anyway.
^ That's right, welting and sewing on the outsole are two different operations. If St. Crispin's claim hand welted, then they would be well within their rights to, but they are not fully hand made. Does anyone know if they hand-click their uppers too?
Thanks chogall, that's great invoice. On a plus side, I think I have enough shoes that I'll never need more than a single resole
^ That's right, welting and sewing on the outsole are two different operations. If St. Crispin's claim hand welted, then they would be well within their rights to, but they are not fully hand made. Does anyone know if they hand-click their uppers too?
To my knowledge no shoe is fully handmade these days if you exclude the use of a simple sewing machine as all uppers are stitched together with sewing machines, are they not?
I think focusing too much on the tools used takes away from the more important thinking as to what is the value of the end results.
What do we know about the quantitative differences between the handstitched welt to outsole connection and the machine stitched which St. Crispin's uses. This would be my question.
To my knowledge no shoe is fully handmade these days if you exclude the use of a simple sewing machine as all uppers are stitched together with sewing machines, are they not?
I think focusing too much on the tools used takes away from the more important thinking as to what is the value of the end results.
What do we know about the quantitative differences between the handstitched welt to outsole connection and the machine stitched which St. Crispin's uses. This would be my question.
An absurd question which naively fails to comprehend that not everything is quantifiable. In order to accurately measure ANY differences one would need to take account of a spectrum of variables and that isn't going to be possible through everyday wear.
StC indeed are very comfortable. And John Lobb lasts are the worst. I don't know who they make em for. Always either too big, too short, too low, high, etc