Originally Posted by Threadbearer
Not all madders are paisleys and vice-versa. Like ties in every category, some are nice, some aren't. If I were you, I wouldn't write off madders just because I saw a few paisleys that didn't crank my tractor.
Madder ties are typically thought of as having traditional paisley designs but can have other designs.
The Madder finish that was used for many years in England has not been used in a long time - perhaps 10 years? Due to environmental laws.
Natural dyes are not typically used in madder silks although salesmen may tell you something else.
Natural madder dye can have various shades depending how the root is treated.