Originally Posted by clee1982
I am sure someone can eventually to pool all the individual listing from one person into one thread, though not sure if it's ideal that way either, just a food for thought.
Side note. I am moving from UK back to Asia, what do you guys think is the best way to massive list items (25~30?). I don't mind paying fee, I just want to get rid off them (and for most likely cheap). I found listing one by one is really time consuming.
Well, we'll seriously consider this.
I probably shouldn't post this, since it's unlikely to be implemented (er... it's really expensive....) but one of the original ideas we had (and honestly, would be to have a thread system, where you could actually "explode" a thread into a gallery view of individual items if it interested you (so, beside a thread there would be a "see all items", and you'd see the individual listings.
The system was never intended to make money, at least not in this way. Instead, sellers would have had to register a paypal account (and so be verified) and they could buy units of credit. The listing fees would have been nominal ($0.05 or something per lisitng), and the expensive thing would have been bumps, so the market would have decided what items got bumped, and it would usually be the high end, expensive items that typically got the most interest anyway. Sellers would then have the choice of either posting a lot of items in one listing, or posting them as multiple listings in a thread, based on their assessment of the market. Is it better to bump, or to post a lot of individual listings? A user with a lot of showcase items might have been tempted to split them up somewhat, probably into categories, to get the most out of each bump, but also get cross exposure for items. Thrifters would use a single thread, sellers wotj a single showcase item and a lot of miscellaneous stuff would use a single thread and multiple bumps. etc...
So, that system would have had the benefits and not the faults of an Ebay, some of which have been articulated here.
So, the real question now is, how do we make the system we have more user friendly both for the the users and for the . We are constrained by 2 things. The first is that a token system is really not possible. The backend for any pay per service token system is... just not going to happen, unless someone decided to enfuse me with a couple of hundred, like, immediately. There needs to be a fee for bumping, and it needs to be based on membership. Also, the categorization is here to stay, as is the price field. Would it be best to allow, say, 7 listings per user, (essentially one in each cateogory, if necessary), make the price the highest priced good, and make the membership system bump-based only? i.e. a user could bump the thread once a day (that's the fastest the system works, I think) for all the listings, with very short duration memberships? I think that that's possible, and we toyed with the idea, but the issue was that people would have "bumping wars", and basic sellers would be left in the dust.
Bumping was a serious issue, people were pissed off about it, and we were thoroughly sick of people complaining about it, and other people gaming the system ("Please leave feedback on this thread") so it is something that will have to be priced so that you have to really want to do it to do it. We also really like the preview picture listings, which are much better for casual readers, (and there are many, and we do want to attract them), but maybe the pricing system I proposed would actually make the preview enticing rather than boring, as Spoo has mentioned?
Like I have said before, but is worth mentioning again, the way this system is going to work is if people give us suggestions that are going to work in the current classified systems, but merely by changing the membership structure and the rules, and at very most, suggestions like Spoo's, which are small technical fixes (well, actually, adding new, dynamic field is not, but I'll see what can be done about that. However, unlike a lot of the other parts of the system, which are difficult to adjust, the current membership, classification, and fee system, were bult for us, and we do have latitude on how it is actually implemented.
The old system is just not coming back. On the backend, j and I, and some of the mods, were spending countless hours deleting threads, having people complain, figuring out the grey areas of the ruiles, etc... People were often (as in, about a dozen cases a day) unsatisfied with our rulings, and we are not going to go back to being ad hoc judges. We are going to have a classified system where the rules are transparent, and where bumping is governed by a sellers cost/benefit analysis. Help us make that work.