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post #121 of 549
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Originally Posted by Jangofett 
I am talking about information I would like to know (like flipping shoes got on Yoox).

I'm not sure what difference this makes. As long as the seller describes the item correctly, does it matter whether he plucked it from the golden fingers of some kindly, weathered Italian man from an Italian villa in Italian ITALY, as opposed to, say, buying it from Nordstoms vs. Nordstrom Rack vs. Yoox vs. a thrift store? Provenance has no bearing on quality...

Plus, if if you're expecting to pay 20 or 30% of retail, you almost have to assume the seller has either owned the items for a long period of time, or purchased them at deep discount, or both.

Plus, whenever you're just burning to know something, there's always a quick remedy at hand -- just ask. Say, Hey, nice shoes. Where'd you get them? Chances are, if you really want some cool, cool shoes at a low, low price, you might not care whether the seller turns a meager profit or not. At least that's the way it's worked out for me...

I dunno. I've sold a few things here. Some were rolled on the thighs of Italian virgins, others I found in a thrift store. I always tell people where everything came from, but so far, it hasn't really mattered one way or the other...
post #122 of 549
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

We had good reasons to change B&S, but apparently, we also broke some key features. I've enlisted Spoo and am also talking with other long time, hgih volume sellers to fix the system, so that we have a market driven, easy to use (for both newcomera and oldtimers) and easily moderated system, but with the freewheelinjg, fun, spirit of the old system.

Yeah, we're listening, and learning too.

Excellent news. Spoo's comments about the old vs. new B&S are right on.
post #123 of 549
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Originally Posted by noobizor View Post


I'm not sure what difference this makes. As long as the seller describes the item correctly, does it matter whether he plucked it from the golden fingers of some kindly, weathered Italian man from an Italian villa in Italian ITALY, as opposed to, say, buying it from Nordstoms vs. Nordstrom Rack vs. Yoox vs. a thrift store? Provenance has no bearing on quality...

Plus, if if you're expecting to pay 20 or 30% of retail, you almost have to assume the seller has either owned the items for a long period of time, or purchased them at deep discount, or both.

I dunno. I've sold a few things here. Some were rolled on the thighs of Italian virgins, others I found in a thrift store. I always tell people where everything came from, but so far, it hasn't really mattered one way or the other...

Like I said, if you are the seller, you can price it whatever you want. I don't have any issue with that and I seldom ask for a discount if I want to buy something from someone.

I also don't mean I want to know the sellers' network, in order to buy the stuff directly from the network. I meant I would like to know more about the stuff which can affect my buying decision. Like a RLPL shoes is not a GG shoes even if GG made it. Even though many will treat them like GG shoes.

However, I will also like to know if you are flipping something and if you have a huge mark up, sorry I just won't buy it even if I like the stuff and I can afford it and even if I could have bought it from Yoox but I didn't.
post #124 of 549
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Originally Posted by Jangofett View Post

However, I will also like to know if you are flipping something and if you have a huge mark up, sorry I just won't buy it even if I like the stuff and I can afford it and even if I could have bought it from Yoox but I didn't.

I don't really mind a big/massive mark up. I know that Mabitex pants were being sold for <$20-$30 in NYC. However the only option to buy Mabitex pants for me in SoCal was to spend 3X as much on the B&S. I don't feel cheated or ripped off.
Edited by deveandepot1 - 7/20/11 at 2:19am
post #125 of 549
Okay, I have been thinking about this. Here is my idea.

When you go to list an item, first you pick the category.

Say shoes.

Then you get a box, for the first pair. Select photo, size, details, and make the payment / shipping terms. You fill it out, and then you hit next. Payment and shipping terms are automatically added to each pair you add from there on out. Then you can add another pair. Etc. Then, in the forum, it shows up - So and So's Shoes for sale. There is a + next to the thread title. You click it, and it expands and shows each individual listing. Or, you can click on the So and So's shoes for sale title, and view them ALL AT ONCE in a thread that adds each individual item together into a conglomerate post. Sweet! You allow everybody to have one of these threads for each category. This would sort stuff out easy, but still allow you to view all of somebody's wares of a specific category at once.

OR, there could be a link (VIEW ALL) next to the seller's name to view all of their listings regardless of category on one page.

Then, if you add a new item to your category, it adds to your index page.

I think this would address the following issues:
Ease of listing: For each category of item, you can keep adding items and it would remember all your terms, etc and it would simply be a matter of clicking through and uploading a different photo and typing in details for the item. No different than before.

Ease of browsing: People that want the bazaar like feel of old SF can click the Category Thread title to view all of the seller's wares in that category, or they can click VIEW ALL to see all of a seller's wares in ALL categories in one big thread like before.

Threads would take up less space as only the titles would be visible, photos would only be visible when a thread is clicked to be expanded. Or, somebody could always change their default browsing setting to view all threads automatically expanded.

500

This is kind of convoluted but it's 4AM, so hopefully somebody gets this idea.


Oh, and RE: Restoring the Sense of Urgency (TM) for buyers - I think my idea would help this a lot, as it would make all of a seller's items visible much in the way they used to be. But some other potential ideas would be:

SF Selling hotsheet - A page of only items added in the past hour (this is probably easy to set up as is, but if there were a link to it, people might use it). Or notifications when your favorite seller adds a new item.
Special buying privileges - not sure how this would work, maybe long time members get to view listings 10 minutes before everybody else can? Or make it so sellers can make their FS threads viewable to their favorite buyers before the general public. Some form of exclusivity.

I'm going to think on this some more tomorrow
Edited by mainy - 7/20/11 at 1:48am
post #126 of 549
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Originally Posted by Jangofett View Post




However, I will also like to know if you are flipping something and if you have a huge mark up, sorry I just won't buy it even if I like the stuff and I can afford it and even if I could have bought it from Yoox but I didn't.

Could you tell us what you consider a fair mark up is?

If you get something at 90 or worse 95% off normal retail some times it's not even worth your time and effort to flip it at 100% mark up. Better to collect bottles for the deposit.
post #127 of 549
Wow, sucks that I had a bunch of clothes that I needed to move and I was expecting to sell them here like I always had.

This new system is absurdly retarded...it would be nice if people would just leave things that work alone instead of fucking them up. First ebay becomes practically worthless for sellers and now this. The pricing is hilarious too...the amounts asked would be more appropriate for six months of access than a week.

FAIL styleforum, complete FAIL.
post #128 of 549
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Originally Posted by deveandepot1 View Post


I don't really mind a big/massive mark up. I know that Mabitex pants were being sold for <$20-$30 in NYC. However the only option to buy Mabitex pants for me in SoCal was to spend 3X as much on the B&S. I don't feel cheated or ripped off.

Your post raises 2 issues.

#1 - If you are buying the Ma's Bull Tex pants, and I know where it came from and how much it cost, would you like to know that, even if you are willing to pay 120 for it?

#2 - If you are buying my Corneliani sportjacket for 700 and I let you know I bought it from ebay for 30, would you still buy it?
post #129 of 549
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Originally Posted by Nicola View Post


Could you tell us what you consider a fair mark up is?

It really depends. If you got a sweet pair of JL or EG from the Northampton sales and mark up by 100 pounds and you did nothing but give your credit card number on the phone while eating some ding dongs and receiving the shoes by royal post in your jammies at 4 in the afternoon, I may just pay you your asking price. But thats because I may never go to Northampton, much less their sales.

I may just buy the Ma's Bull Tex pants at 300% mark up.

But I draw the line at 100% or more markup on Yoox or interwebs flipping.
post #130 of 549
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Originally Posted by Jangofett View Post


Your post raises 2 issues.

#1 - If you are buying the Ma's Bull Tex pants, and I know where it came from and how much it cost, would you like to know that, even if you are willing to pay 120 for it?

#2 - If you are buying my Corneliani sportjacket for 700 and I let you know I bought it from ebay for 30, would you still buy it?

#1: I know the market value of most mens clothing items so knowing or not knowing wouldn't alter my decision to buy the item. It might for others.

#2: If it fit me, I wanted it, and was currently the cheapest option available, yeah sure.

I have bought many thrifted items with the thrift tags still attached.
I once paid $120 on a pair of NOS Allen Edmonds in my rare size(11A). They had $3 written on the sole circled with a red marker. It didn't ruin the purchase for me.
post #131 of 549
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Originally Posted by Jangofett View Post



But I draw the line at 100% or more markup on Yoox or interwebs flipping.



You really have to determine what an item is worth to you and make your decisions accordingly.
post #132 of 549
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

We had good reasons to change B&S, but apparently, we also broke some key features. I've enlisted Spoo and am also talking with other long time, hgih volume sellers to fix the system, so that we have a market driven, easy to use (for both newcomera and oldtimers) and easily moderated system, but with the freewheelinjg, fun, spirit of the old system.

Yeah, we're listening, and learning too.

That's great Fok. One thing I'd note that, in addition to the fun, I learned a heck of a lot from comments posted in B&S threads.
post #133 of 549
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Originally Posted by deveandepot1 View Post

I have bought many thrifted items with the thrift tags still attached.
I once paid $120 on a pair of NOS Allen Edmonds in my rare size(11A). They had $3 written on the sole circled with a red marker. It didn't ruin the purchase for me.

I think you got it in reverse.
In a thrift situation, you pay the lesser price.
So you just paid 120 when you could have paid 3!
post #134 of 549
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Originally Posted by deveandepot1 View Post


You really have to determine what an item is worth to you and make your decisions accordingly.

I know and I did. I won't buy from interwebz flippers with high markups.
post #135 of 549
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Originally Posted by Jangofett View Post


I think you got it in reverse.
In a thrift situation, you pay the lesser price.
So you just paid 120 when you could have paid 3!

I must have worded that poorly.shog[1].gif
I paid $120 on Ebay for a thrifted pair of shoes with $3 written on the sole.
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