Where I went to school, (NC), for YEARS, I mean...at least 15 years
ago, every computer program writen by every student, in every class,
for the past 5 years was sent to some super computer at berkley.
This thing had artificial intelligence and would report as a percentage
the percentage likelyness that you copied even one line of code
from somebody. I dont mean change the variables, this thing, it checked
the INTENT or something. Then, for possible cheaters it was reported,
and reviewed by a human. If it looked like you cheated, you go to the
trial. If convicted once, you got a -100 for that program, not a zero.
It guarenteed you got a D. if convicted twice, you were permanently
expelled from the university. And you didn't get help or attention.
There were 200+ people per class, and you had to get it on your own.
In addition, LOTS of ppl, including about everyone, has spent
"a sunday" studying something with no relevance.
I've spent many an hour on psycology, managing leisure alternatives,
astronomy and the like. Freakin jokes. But you have to do it to
get the degree. To have what others have.
I've spent many many an hour, on things like thermodynamics,
materials science, and the like. "Technical" electives that I've
never seen again, never used, never needed. I did it to get the
degree. To have what others have.
It still sounds like your argument is "Its ok to cheat, if there are a lot
of ppl in the class, or, if the class isnt relevant to what i will really
be doing. Or, the work isnt relevant to my natural talent. " Or, insert
X if you want, but to basically have Y, that others have, that I dont have,
Why did I have to take FOUR PE classes, when I did two years
in the FREAKIN INFANTRY? Waste of time? Actually not.
I learned how to golf and raquetball lol. Waste of money, for somebody
paying for it 100% themselves would have liked to get the pass on it.
yes. Why? Because The Man said I have to do the work, to get the
degree. He never said anything about my natural talents being
golf or raquetball, and I can assure you, thery were not
I agree. Nobody here is on a soapbox. But, I lurked a long time on this site,
been a participating member a while. I am very sure, the really successful people here....they did the work.
And dont get me wrong - if somebody is a piano vituoso play by ear perfect person - pursue the dream. But don't blur the line between that and a defined set of criteria to get X (piece of paper diploma, etc) and what it takes to get X (hard work, sundays sacrified, vs. cheating)
After thinking about it a long time, more than 2, as many as 4-5 issues have been blurred together in this thread.
I ask you to think about that.