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post #181 of 248
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Originally Posted by Slewfoot View Post

This thread stinks. Goodbye.

agre it has gone on too long deadhorse-a.gif
post #182 of 248
Have we heard from Leffot here yet?

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post #183 of 248
I tried searching "leffot eg" in google and this thread was the 5th link from the top
post #184 of 248
Patek, I think you are being the cry-baby here and a spiteful ass as well.

Some thoughts.

1. You don't know what Leffot pays for their MTO. At the very least, their price has to include customs duties which would not have been included in the EG price quote. That alone could be a couple hundred dollars.
2. Did the EG price quote include shipping? Shoe trees? I suspect the Leffot price quote includes the trees.
3. You have no proof that Leffot read your post and then went and complained to EG. It is just as likely that someone at EG made a mistake in quoting you a price, and then this mistake was later caught by someone at EG and then they told you they could not fulfill the order.

You went about this purchase in a very confused manner. You should have gotten both price quotes before you placed an order. EG should have told you that this design was an exclusive available only through Leffot. Perhaps that might change in the future, but if you want the shoe now, you should go through Leffot.

Your characterization of Leffot customers as rich bankers who know nothing about shoes is simply moronic and is as unsubstantiated as your entire argument.
post #185 of 248
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Originally Posted by Lonneker View Post

Have we heard from Leffot here yet?

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Why should Leffot comment on such an asinine thread? No need to defend oneself when you have done nothing wrong. I believe Steven is simply taking the higher road and assuming this ridiculous Styleforum back and forth will die out, as it should have a long time ago.
post #186 of 248
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Originally Posted by Harrydog View Post

Patek, I think you are being the cry-baby here and a spiteful ass as well.

Some thoughts.

1. You don't know what Leffot pays for their MTO. At the very least, their price has to include customs duties which would not have been included in the EG price quote. That alone could be a couple hundred dollars.
2. Did the EG price quote include shipping? Shoe trees? I suspect the Leffot price quote includes the trees.
3. You have no proof that Leffot read your post and then went and complained to EG. It is just as likely that someone at EG made a mistake in quoting you a price, and then this mistake was later caught by someone at EG and then they told you they could not fulfill the order.

You went about this purchase in a very confused manner. You should have gotten both price quotes before you placed an order. EG should have told you that this design was an exclusive available only through Leffot. Perhaps that might change in the future, but if you want the shoe now, you should go through Leffot.

Your characterization of Leffot customers as rich bankers who know nothing about shoes is simply moronic and is as unsubstantiated as your entire argument.

These are all excellent points and spot on. Anyone who has dealt with Leffot knows what a classy store it is, with wonderful products and pricing that is certainly fair within the context of their position in the marketplace and what they bring to the table.

This entire thread says nothing positive about the culture here at Styleforum and reflects horribly on the OP. Grow up ... get over it ... and move on!
post #187 of 248
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Originally Posted by coolshoes View Post


Why should Leffot comment on such an asinine thread? No need to defend oneself when you have done nothing wrong. I believe Steven is simply taking the higher road and assuming this ridiculous Styleforum back and forth will die out, as it should have a long time ago.

It's always good to hear the other side of the story, especially as there have been quite a few assumptions made here. But of course, I can see why he prefers to sit back and stay out of this thread.
post #188 of 248
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Originally Posted by Dib View Post


Well, I was replying more to the assertion/general proposition that the poster had made that private companies are free to do as they please. I was just trying to point out that as a general proposition this is wrong.

I agree though, if EG was legally prohibited from selling the shoes (e.g. because they had an agreement to that effect with Leffot) then that would complicate the analysis slightly. Again, without meaning to get too legalistic, even if there was some sort of exclusivity arrangement between EG and Leffot, EG's dealings with the OP would have still created some legal obligations on their behalf (given they had made an offer to the OP who accepted the offer with the backing of a payment). As such, even if EG were prohibited from providing the OP with the shoe, it is likely they would need to go over and above simply returning the deposit to remedy the situation.

I think part of the problem here, as you note, is that none of us know whether Leffot actually have an exclusivity arrangement in place with EG, and if they do, its scope, terms, duration etc etc. Personally, I would be very surprised if EG had signed up to something which would then prohibit them from accepting similar orders through their MTO programme.

Perhaps you misunderstood. Companies can and do discriminate. The method in which they do it is simply by denying your business. They don't have to give a reason and you won't know why you got the shaft.

If they don't tell you why they are rejecting your business or even lie about it, enlighten me what can you sue them for?
post #189 of 248
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Originally Posted by Fraiche View Post

If they don't tell you why they are rejecting your business or even lie about it, enlighten me what can you sue them for?

Someone do that Heath Ledger not sure if serious face...



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Edited by noob - 7/20/11 at 4:29pm
post #190 of 248
Wow this thread had just opposite effect of what OP wanted/intended. I could not find single post that would convince me Leffot did anything wrong. Good for them. I really cannot stand when people begin to compare apples to oranges. People ask for quotes which do not include shipping or duty fees and then compare those prices to Leffot that took care of those "small" issues.

Good for Leffot I am planning on visiting his store next time I am in New York.
post #191 of 248
To the original poster:

1. Leffot owes you nothing. You cancelled the sale. Indeed, you owe an apology to Leffot because you attempted an end-run around it.

2. Edward Green also owes you nothing.

3. Neither Leffot nor EG have any obligations to answer these complaints in a public forum.

4. If you disagree with the above, go elsewhere. There are plenty of other retailers and manufacturers.
post #192 of 248
For what it's worth, Steven from Leffot seems like a great guy who is very knowledgeable about his craft and caring of the needs of his customers.
just 2 cents.
post #193 of 248
I'll stay with my AAAC Approved™ AE Seconds and avoid all this drama.
post #194 of 248
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Originally Posted by Mark Seitelman View Post

To the original poster:

1. Leffot owes you nothing. You cancelled the sale. Indeed, you owe an apology to Leffot because you attempted an end-run around it.

2. Edward Green also owes you nothing.

3. Neither Leffot nor EG have any obligations to answer these complaints in a public forum.

4. If you disagree with the above, go elsewhere. There are plenty of other retailers and manufacturers.

You may be right on the first two points, and perhaps even on the third, but not sure why he may not share his experience here. That's what this place is all about, like it or not.
post #195 of 248
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Originally Posted by Mark Seitelman View Post

To the original poster:

1. Leffot owes you nothing. You cancelled the sale. Indeed, you owe an apology to Leffot because you attempted an end-run around it.

2. Edward Green also owes you nothing.

3. Neither Leffot nor EG have any obligations to answer these complaints in a public forum.

4. If you disagree with the above, go elsewhere. There are plenty of other retailers and manufacturers.
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Originally Posted by coolshoes View Post


Why should Leffot comment on such an asinine thread? No need to defend oneself when you have done nothing wrong. I believe Steven is simply taking the higher road and assuming this ridiculous Styleforum back and forth will die out, as it should have a long time ago.

This.

Just saying...You ordered/bought the shoe, you cancelled the shoe order later, the boob at EG sold you a shoe you should not have been able to order anyways, you got found out and for your troubles you were given a dose of vendetta. What's your problem?

Why would Leffot respond and create a precedent?

Deal with it.
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