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post #76 of 414
And its quality , fit and details trumps most of the lower-end-of-the-spectrum high-fashion brands (like Marc Jacobs etc) as well as similar brands at the same price point (Acne, APC etc)
post #77 of 414
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And its quality , fit and details trumps most of the lower-end-of-the-spectrum high-fashion brands (like Marc Jacobs etc) as well as similar brands at the same price point (Acne, APC etc)

mmm, didn't know about this one quite frankly. I'm having a look at their online store. At 57'000 yen for a jacket I wouldn't say they are the most affordable brand out there but, yes, if the we are comparing to Slimane it's still cheap.

a few questions for those who have experience with the brand:

-how does the sizing work? I mean, 42, 44, 46, it's quite clear we are not talking about IT sizing... judging from measures 42 might be something between an IT44 and an IT46...

- Is it skinny, right?

- is quality good? can you unbutton the sleeves?
post #78 of 414
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mmm, didn't know about this one quite frankly. I'm having a look at their online store. At 57'000 yen for a jacket I wouldn't say they are the most affordable brand out there but, yes, if the we are comparing to Slimane it's still cheap.

a few questions for those who have experience with the brand:

-how does the sizing work? I mean, 42, 44, 46, it's quite clear we are not talking about IT sizing... judging from measures 42 might be something between an IT44 and an IT46...

- Is it skinny, right?

- is quality good? can you unbutton the sleeves?

- I normally buy them at discount during sales period...so maybe 29000 Yen for a jacket? Seems fair to me.

- The clothes fit really slim. I used to wear a 46 in them, but they make a 48 nowdays, and that is the biggest size they carry. A size 42 will fit like a size IT 42-44 comfortably, and a size IT 46 will get a nuthuggin / nipple fit. I take a 48 nowadays.

- Quality is damn good for the price, around the same as current Dior Homme, but not as good as Hedi-era DH. Their forte is in minimalist outerwear, monochromatic fashion suit separates, and nice slim fit tees and monochromatic dress shirts that fit like BoO in a lightweight cotton. Sometimes they put out good sweaters and nice goth-ninj styled bluchers and boots during F/W but that's all they produce. At 40000+ yen MSRP with a discount of 60% in Japan during sales in 06-07 their combat boots were the best value for money back then, I still recalled my friend buying a pair and rocking the shit out of them because they were such a good buy. Their recent F/W with the vampire ear models also had some solid outerwear. The only problem is that few stores stock them in the states (I can only recall Blackbird having them)
Luckily Singapore has a department store with a whole display of their stuff and they often go on 70% end of season sales so I'm pretty happy with the pricing thus far.

In a nutshell get Lad if you like to emulate those Hedi-era DH subdued looks, but don't have the cash to do so (but not willing to stoop to April 77 quality levels)
post #79 of 414
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Originally Posted by Flame View Post


- I normally buy them at discount during sales period...so maybe 29000 Yen for a jacket? Seems fair to me.

- The clothes fit really slim. I used to wear a 46 in them, but they make a 48 nowdays, and that is the biggest size they carry. A size 42 will fit like a size IT 42-44 comfortably, and a size IT 46 will get a nuthuggin / nipple fit. I take a 48 nowadays.

- Quality is damn good for the price, around the same as current Dior Homme, but not as good as Hedi-era DH. Their forte is in minimalist outerwear, monochromatic fashion suit separates, and nice slim fit tees and monochromatic dress shirts that fit like BoO in a lightweight cotton. Sometimes they put out good sweaters and nice goth-ninj styled bluchers and boots during F/W but that's all they produce. At 40000+ yen MSRP with a discount of 60% in Japan during sales in 06-07 their combat boots were the best value for money back then, I still recalled my friend buying a pair and rocking the shit out of them because they were such a good buy. Their recent F/W with the vampire ear models also had some solid outerwear. The only problem is that few stores stock them in the states (I can only recall Blackbird having them)
Luckily Singapore has a department store with a whole display of their stuff and they often go on 70% end of season sales so I'm pretty happy with the pricing thus far.

In a nutshell get Lad if you like to emulate those Hedi-era DH subdued looks, but don't have the cash to do so (but not willing to stoop to April 77 quality levels)

wow, this means that size 42 is actually an IT42...they must be the only menswear brand in the world that makes such small sizes. Your description is making this very appealing... Do they ever run discounts on the website? I'd be keen to buy something and I have this dilemma between this and a Boglioli jacket (very different, I know).
post #80 of 414
I'm not too sure about online sales, but as for your dilemma, if your wardrobe is more MC or Trad / Ivy leaguer style, get the Boglioli. If you tend to wear lots of DH / Jil / Raf / MMM/ Stephen Scheneider etc etc etc then the Lad will be a better buy.
post #81 of 414
I tried one of the junya knit blazers and damn does it fit small... Couldn't button the L size and I'm not really heavy. (I usually am S or M with him).
Not sure he does XL?
post #82 of 414
Yep, Lad fit is fantastic. I'm a true 42-43 and a Lad suit in size 42 is the best fitting suit I've ever had the pleasure of trying on. Not the best thing to wear to the office, but damn do their jackets fit nice for a more casual situation. Quality trumps almost everything out there at the same price point too.
Edited by bwahahahaha - 7/30/11 at 9:57am
post #83 of 414
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Originally Posted by Flame View Post


- I normally buy them at discount during sales period...so maybe 29000 Yen for a jacket? Seems fair to me.

- The clothes fit really slim. I used to wear a 46 in them, but they make a 48 nowdays, and that is the biggest size they carry. A size 42 will fit like a size IT 42-44 comfortably, and a size IT 46 will get a nuthuggin / nipple fit. I take a 48 nowadays.

- Quality is damn good for the price, around the same as current Dior Homme, but not as good as Hedi-era DH. Their forte is in minimalist outerwear, monochromatic fashion suit separates, and nice slim fit tees and monochromatic dress shirts that fit like BoO in a lightweight cotton. Sometimes they put out good sweaters and nice goth-ninj styled bluchers and boots during F/W but that's all they produce. At 40000+ yen MSRP with a discount of 60% in Japan during sales in 06-07 their combat boots were the best value for money back then, I still recalled my friend buying a pair and rocking the shit out of them because they were such a good buy. Their recent F/W with the vampire ear models also had some solid outerwear. The only problem is that few stores stock them in the states (I can only recall Blackbird having them)
Luckily Singapore has a department store with a whole display of their stuff and they often go on 70% end of season sales so I'm pretty happy with the pricing thus far.

In a nutshell get Lad if you like to emulate those Hedi-era DH subdued looks, but don't have the cash to do so (but not willing to stoop to April 77 quality levels)

A77 has some pretty solid stuff, my A77 cords are still going strong with my identical DH cords have been dead for yrs.
post #84 of 414
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I tried one of the junya knit blazers and damn does it fit small... Couldn't button the L size and I'm not really heavy. (I usually am S or M with him).
Not sure he does XL?

I tried it on today too (size S). I was actually relieved to see that it didn't suit me very well. First of all, perhaps a bit obvious, it's very, very peculiar. You won't be able to wear it more than 2-3 times per season...

Secondly, it's not very comfortable. Impossibly heavy and quite 'rigid' even if the size fits me perfectly. Also: it costed 1'600 euros and that's beyond logic ;-) Tried on some Sacai faux-blazer (they are in fact very elaborated cardigans). So much better at half the price. Only complaint. you cannot ask 900 Euros for something that is made in China.
post #85 of 414
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Originally Posted by Flame View Post

I'm not too sure about online sales, but as for your dilemma, if your wardrobe is more MC or Trad / Ivy leaguer style, get the Boglioli. If you tend to wear lots of DH / Jil / Raf / MMM/ Stephen Scheneider etc etc etc then the Lad will be a better buy.

well, I have both looks in my wardrobe. Boglioli has a fantastic jacket this year but I'm quite obsessed with the Slimane-aesthetics so I might go for Lad.
post #86 of 414
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Yep, Lad fit is fantastic. I'm a true 44 and a Lad suit in size 42 is the best fitting suit I've ever had the pleasure of trying on. Not the best thing to wear to the office, but damn do their jackets fit nice for a more casual situation. Quality trumps almost everything out there at the same price point too.

just a small question: I'm between 44 and 46 for most brands (44 if the brand has a slim or regular silhouette, 46 if it has a very slim or skinny one). Would you suggest me to go for a 42 or a 44 in the case of Lad?
post #87 of 414
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Checked out ODIN's first shipment of WM stuff. Right now they have about a half dozen styles of socks, 4 button up shirts, 1 pair of 3/4 length pants and one knit.

More is coming in the next week or so, some outerwear specifically. So far it was a pretty conservative buy, but all good stuff.

I would actually consider stuff true to size. I'm a small in normal slim brands, a TB1, etc, and a 1 in WM fit me pretty perfectly, with a looser cut than something like TB. Maybe they've changed their sizing for this season with the increased distribution.

This shirt was probably the highlight, it's some kind of brushed fabric that is super soft not just in texture but in material, and it has a yoke in a more sturdy corded sort of fabric in a slightly darker grey, and 2 strips on the side seams in this same material.

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They also had a kind of standard oxford in a light grey as well as black, and a serge fabric button up in dark gray. Can't find photos of these on the site at a quick glance but I'll go through it in a bit and see what I can come up with.


These are the pants they had, and they have a really cool baggy cut with an aggressive taper that makes them sort of bow legged. Would really want to wear these with some fairisle leggings and my WM boots probably, but the smallest they had was 2 and I was drowning in them. I'm a 30 waist and the 2 felt like it would be best for a big 32 or even 34.

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This is the knit and is definitely a highlight of the collection for me as far as stuff that's accessible but still distinctly WM, so I was impressed with that pickup. Still would have preferred the shawl collar cardigan version of this but it's all good.

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Prices were fair, oxfords were in the low 300's I think, and the pants, sweater, and the cool shirt I posted above were all around $435-465 IIRC. I think socks were $45 but I didn't pay much attention to them.

I'm probably going to wait for the next shipment before I make a decision on any of it though.
post #88 of 414
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Originally Posted by Flame View Post

And its quality , fit and details trumps most of the lower-end-of-the-spectrum high-fashion brands (like Marc Jacobs etc) as well as similar brands at the same price point (Acne, APC etc)

How do shoes fit?

I have a pair marked size 44 and they fit TTS, I would buy more but I dont know if web store is the same...

If I was slimmer (build wise im a 50, need a 48 / 46 to wear it) I would buy fucking heaps of lad
post #89 of 414
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Originally Posted by Vaudevillian View Post

wow, this means that size 42 is actually an IT42...they must be the only menswear brand in the world that makes such small sizes. Your description is making this very appealing... Do they ever run discounts on the website? I'd be keen to buy something and I have this dilemma between this and a Boglioli jacket (very different, I know).

Off the top of my head, Dior Homme is the only brand that can be found readily in a 42, though I know others exist (mostly Japanese/Asian market stuffs) but are very rare

post #90 of 414
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How do shoes fit?
True or half a size down.
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A77 has some pretty solid stuff, my A77 cords are still going strong with my identical DH cords have been dead for yrs.
Same here, was mainly referring to current A77s.
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