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post #9106 of 16409
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Originally Posted by teddieriley View Post

Fit applies not to actual measurements but the net effect of the look. You can have bell bottoms that "fit" right? But because of the flare of the leg, the overall aesthetic is affected. Note that a "1 inch" difference across a hem opening is actually 2" (you need to double it for the actual circumference). If you're aware a certain cut of pants has a wider leg opening, wouldn't that affect your purchase decision so that you opt for one that is a straight leg or tapered leg (or not purchase at all)? You don't need to go bespoke or spend tons of money to get the look you're going for.

i do not entirely disagree. i do pay attention to the general idea of things like leg opening. i would certainly not wear bell bottoms. i am saying merely that i think these particular pants have bottoms that are well within the range of looking fine. could they look EVEN BETTER ZOMG ELEVENTY NINER AND A HALF!!!!??? sure. there are few people here that post anything that could not be better in some way. i am in no way claiming to be in the better league of posters here in any regard, except maybe for not being a dick. all i am saying is that i have a point where i say to myself, this is good enough for now. the hems of my pants fall into that category.

the most important part is to be happy and not like like total crap. i think i have accomplished that much. more than that is striving for an even higher level of perfection, like gravy. im looking in that direction, but one thing at a time.

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Originally Posted by caseyfud View Post

How can you take the time to make 30,000 posts on SF and post photos of yourself online for other men to critique but decide taking the time to find a pair of pants with the hem width that looks best on you is too nitpicky?

there is literally no correlation between the two, hence i will not even attempt to address the comment.
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

caseyfud, do you have a wife, children, job, and house to look after? I'm not saying Stitchy shouldn't be pickier about some of the details of fit, but you need to consider that "close enough" may be what he has time for. Or maybe he just hates shopping in stores. Who knows? In any case, that inch of hem is not the most pressing area for improvement.

SB gets it.

also, yes, i do not have the time out of the house/work to go to stores, nor are there any stores in bmore worth going to.
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

what he's trying to say (albeit poorly) is that if you're already taking the time to post here, take pictures of yourselves and purchase expensive clothing, you might as well bother to pay attention to the details anyway -- you've already opened the door, you might as well walk in.

for goodness sake, im a not saying i do not want to pay attention to details, or "walk in the door. " im saying i have priorities in where i focus my attentions. its not likei can decide to have certain things like exact size leg openings, and they magically happen. that would require finding a entire new selection of pants. considering the larger issues, and other areas that could use improvement, i think this falls pretty low on the totem pole. but more importantly, considering that the leg opening an all my pants falls well within the acceptable range imo, and had i been wearing different shoes, likely it would be a non issue, i really am not super concerned about this.
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Originally Posted by caseyfud View Post

If your wife and kids are keeping you from finding that perfect hem width then it's probably time to find a new family.

i think we have different priorities. wink.gif
post #9107 of 16409
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

i think we have different priorities. wink.gif

28,544 posts in two years, or 40 per day. Yes, I'd say so. satisfied.gif
post #9108 of 16409
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Originally Posted by PTWilliams View Post

Please help me understand the difference here. The first jacket (IST66's jacket) received much praise here, and I agree. However the second jacket, which is mine, is very similar and was not well received at all. The first one emphasizes the black, whereas the second emphasizes the red. The pattern repeats 14-times over the length of the IST66's jacket and 8-times in my jacket. Perhaps those two features are enough to give IST66's jacket a more-refined look. Mine is obviously dated, but is cashmere, which I like. I was pretty much ready to put my jacket aside based on the advice received here, by people I much respect, when I saw the multiple praises of the former. So I have to decide whether to invest another $60 getting the sleeves lengthened and chest let out (on top of the $100 original purchase price). What am I missing? I'm not trying to defend my jacket, just trying to understand the subtleties and make a good decision. As always, Thanks

 

Personally I like both jackets (I even contemplated bidding on a similar one by J.Press on the bay yesterday, and in the end should have - it sold for $21!).

 

Looking back over the comments from your original post I think you may be perceiving more negativity than you really received. Holdfast and Spoo commented on the fit rather than the fabric, for example. Some others did say "burn with fire" or similar, which is in stark contrast to the positivity directed at IST I guess, but I also think the other choices IST made in his fit make a difference, as does his photography. The background to your photo does not flatter the fabric, and the collar points outside the lapels further date, visually, an already dated jacket.

 

How about taking another fit-pic, this time with the collar under the lapel, the jacket undone (to reduce the obvious chest issues), against a more contrasting background, and with a different pose (one where you aren't mid-Riverdance)?

 

 

Amateur photoshopping (Click to show)

 

 


Edited by SeaJen - 9/25/12 at 1:50pm
post #9109 of 16409
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Originally Posted by P. Bateman View Post

28,544 posts in two years, or 40 per day. Yes, I'd say so. satisfied.gif

I'm a stitches fan, but this is fucking funny.
post #9110 of 16409
I too am a fran of teh sheep.

What I find most funny however, is that this entire conversation is spawned off of the size of a pant leg opening.

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Originally Posted by P. Bateman View Post

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

i think we have different priorities. wink.gif

28,544 posts in two years, or 40 per day. Yes, I'd say so. satisfied.gif

I guess this is supposed to be an insult of some sort. You got me.
post #9111 of 16409
Yom Kippur approaches. I must go pray for atonement for my poor clothing choices. Please do not be too harsh on me while I am away.

Catch ya'll laters.
post #9112 of 16409
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Originally Posted by PTWilliams View Post

IST66's jacket, My jacket

In my (very amateur) opinion your jacket is actually just as nice as IST's but the fit lacks a coherence that it desperately needs. In IST's fit there is at least one item of clothing that matches a colour in the jacket. The net result is that each element is being drawn in like the threads of a tapestry which comes together in the form of the jacket. In your fit however the jacket sits alone; starkly cream and red and brown on top of blue and blue and black.

Your jacket would feel much more appropriate if you we wearing light coloured trousers, even a Nantucket red pair would bring together the colours (though you start to bring in the question of taste). An ivory or white linen shirt and a panama hat with navy chinos would give this a better look.

Almost any item that stands out as having been "dumped" into the mix will look bad, and a wacky item that looks cohesive will garner praise. For what its worth I have a very similar jacket from Chester Barrie, and have yet to use it outside of summer events where I am watching Polo, the boat races or horse racing. Its not an everyday piece unless you can draw every element into the outfit (as IST has done so well) so putting it over dark jeans and blue shirt isn't going to cut it.

Don't be disheartened, you have shown time and time again that you're willing to go the extra mile in terms of an outfit that is worn like a costume, and you just need to work out what scenario this particular piece is destined for, rather than shoe-horning it into fits in the place of something more appropriate.
post #9113 of 16409
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Originally Posted by PTWilliams View Post

Please help me understand the difference here. The first jacket (IST66's jacket) received much praise here, and I agree. However the second jacket, which is mine, is very similar and was not well received at all. The first one emphasizes the black, whereas the second emphasizes the red. The pattern repeats 14-times over the length of the IST66's jacket and 8-times in my jacket. Perhaps those two features are enough to give IST66's jacket a more-refined look. Mine is obviously dated, but is cashmere, which I like. I was pretty much ready to put my jacket aside based on the advice received here, by people I much respect, when I saw the multiple praises of the former. So I have to decide whether to invest another $60 getting the sleeves lengthened and chest let out (on top of the $100 original purchase price). What am I missing? I'm not trying to defend my jacket, just trying to understand the subtleties and make a good decision. As always, Thanks
IST66's jacket, My jacket

fabric and pattern are teh only similarities here PT. placement of the notches is the first HUGE thing i notice outside of fit and how its being worn. theres no comparison outside of a similar pattern though. with the low notches on yours, it really dates the coat....giving it a thrift store look. the waist on yours looks ill fitted for your body. and same withthe chest....yours almost gives a U shape. Also, the shirt collar out just doesnt help at all. put it back in. I think the shirt against the coat looks odd too...but the cardigan breaks it up with the dark color. really helps to my eye. also,, youre showing no cuff. sounds nit picky, but no cuff in my eyes really ruins a fit. im horribly annoyed when my cuffs are stuck inside my sleeves.
post #9114 of 16409
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

Yom Kippur approaches. I must go pray for atonement for my poor clothing choices. Please do not be too harsh on me while I am away.
Catch ya'll laters.

Tzom Kal!

I'm look forward to the pimped out, white on white, all white fit pix.
post #9115 of 16409

PTW, the difference between the two pictures is the difference between dressing with a careful eye to the way each garment works with the body shape of the wearer and the overall coherence of an outfit, and wearing clothes. The jacket doesn't flatter your body shape - frankly it makes you look like you have moobs and I am sure you're actually a fit guy. IST66's jacket is perfectly cut for him. The dress shirt worn open collar and over the jacket is a no-no. IST66 has a similar shirt but it's worn with a well-chosen tie and the light wool cardigan adds some more interest whilst the flat dark colour serves to give some grounding to the dark colours in the jacket - both tie and cardigan pull the outfit together. The very dark jeans don't work with the colours and style of your jacket, whereas IST66 has a really well cut pair of grey trousers - a neutral colour which doesn't fight the jacket. 

post #9116 of 16409
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Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey View Post

frankly it makes you look like you have moobs and I am sure you're actually a fit guy.

 

This is where you are wrong. PTW has acknowledged his moobs before.

post #9117 of 16409
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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

 

This is where you are wrong. PTW has acknowledged his moobs before.

 

Well, whether you have or you haven't, you don't want to look like you do.

post #9118 of 16409
PeeTeeDub, my two cents, by category...

Fit: There appears to be too much waist suppression, giving a slightly feminine silhouette. The lower notch of the lapels may not be the fashion right now, but they're fine.

Accessorizing: Tuck in the shirt collar. Show some shirt cuff (it looks like the jacket sleeves hit the right spot on your wrist). Mid-gray flannels instead of dark denim.

Picture/pose: The pose really emphasizes the aforementioned silhouette issue. A robo-pose would be much more flattering and probably demonstrate the actual proportions of the jacket better.

In short, I think it's worth hanging onto the jacket.
post #9119 of 16409
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Originally Posted by PTWilliams View Post

 

 

I think it's the way you stand and the fact that you are wearing women's jeans...

post #9120 of 16409
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Originally Posted by Louis XIV View Post

Crat, your German is very solid!
The only major mistake being "Mahl" = "feast", what you were looking for was "mal".
Everybody would have understood you perfectly and while I am able to dechipre some of your mother tongue when written down, I can't speak a single word.
So, hats off to you!
Also, your shirts look lovely and fit you very well. Would you mind taking a picture of one of the collars?

Ah well, I speak enough German to chat with the cute german girl next door : ) My writing is virtually non existent though shog[1].gif

Anyway, here are the collars. 2 collars from 2 angles each.
(Pics taken inside, colour is off and very much so.)
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)






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