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post #8611 of 16794
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

i am trying to master the basics in a few different styles. no reason i cant be focused on more than one mode of dress, in the basic levels of each.
dont harsh my mellow, bro. smile.gif

the issue though is that mastering the basics, in say, casual MC dress will translate will into other styles of dress. your issue is that you don't have enough of a 'base' wardrobe to really expand in a lot of different directions -- if you took your time, learned what's good on you, what works and what you like in one specific style of dress, and then built up the necessary pieces for that, it would be infinitely easier to translate your existing wardrobe into other areas. for example, if you had a good collection of business casual shoes, shirts and ties, then you could 'spice' up a few of your looks with more interesting pieces, like a soft shouldered sportcoat with an interesting pattern.

as I've warned you before, you seem to have gotten caught up in the glow of SF purchases approval.. and it seems to have influenced what you purchase, which would be fine but you're still basically starting from scratch, and the items that get the most praise here aren't the most versatile and useful items (because they are boring), but the exaggerated last G&G loafers that only look good in 5% of the outfits you wear, or italian shirtings that a fancy name but don't particularly look good on your frame. you also clearly want to model yourself after spoo, and that's great (and fine), but you seem to be missing a lot of the essential pieces that make his fits look good: everything is tailored to a tee, all of his shirts are pressed and all of his pants are sharply creased and hemmed to a perfect length. your stuff too often looks sloppy.

just.. slow down. it's really kind of nuts that you're buying really niche selvedge pants which are honestly appropriate in like.. 5 settings when you're still lacking so many of other basic pieces.

you can ignore what i (and others) are saying, but ask yourself if you're happy with the last looks you've posted considering the amount of money and time you've spent putting them together.
post #8612 of 16794
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post

Well of course I'm welcome to hate them. And I do. With the fire of 1000 sun's.
Why do you wear them then? Shock value? Complete disregard for aesthetic? It makes little sense to me. Obviously, you KNOW how to dress. So what's the point here? Wearing a jacket that's a size to small because "you can" is fine, but you can also go out of the house with your underwear on the outside of your pants. You don't do that, do you? What's the gain?

his jacket isn't a size small, you're wrong.
post #8613 of 16794
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

That jacket looks good on him IMO.

is it the horrible wrinkling that's making me think its small and short in the arms?
post #8614 of 16794
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

That jacket looks good on him IMO.

and the loafers work for him also. I could not wear them but thats his look and overall he looks good. If I had to guess who he was out of the blue, I would peg him as some jazz musician, bohemian ne'er do well, or son of african dictator spending money like its water.
post #8615 of 16794
The Lord Rambo has spoken. The jacket is too small and it is a shit fit. All is safe with the world now
post #8616 of 16794
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post

but you can also go out of the house with your underwear on the outside of your pants. You don't do that, do you? What's the gain?

i do that at least once a week, and the gain is immeasurable.
post #8617 of 16794
there was some dude who posted a month or two ago a couple fits, and they were all exceptional but VERY basic. gray wool trousers, pale blue shirt and some simple shoes, and they were better than 99% of what gets posted here because the silhouette was good, the colors worked and the clothes were properly tailored. too many people in this thread miss these basic essential components to focus on whatever ugly sprezz-esque trend of the week is going on..

like mr k's fits. sorry, but i have never liked one. they are so lifeless in boring, just the same rotation of 4 pieces which aren't especially flattering. unbroken in selvedge jeans that look awkward and are hemmed too short, some alden shoes and a MTM chambray shirt (or from j crew) that looks a size too small. and that last fit is just awful.. if you chopped his head off it'd look like something a 14 year old would wear.
post #8618 of 16794
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

and the loafers work for him also. I could not wear them but thats his look and overall he looks good. If I had to guess who he was out of the blue, I would peg him as some jazz musician, bohemian ne'er do well, or son of african dictator spending money like its water.



I want to be the son of an African dictator icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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post #8620 of 16794
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post

is it the horrible wrinkling that's making me think its small and short in the arms?

It looks like cotton so it will fall and crease very differently than wool. The sleeves wrinkling and therefore riding up a little bit is par for the course with cotton or linen. The X a the buttoning point indicates some small issues with the fit (probably balance and general chest shape) but the fabric around the waist seems to say that it's not tight. It's a bit pointless to try to find perfection in the lines of a jacket like this - it's supposed to be a little wrinkly and messy, it's a casual piece and look. When you step back and look at the overall look and silhouette, it works pretty well IMO
post #8621 of 16794
IST, I may be wrong and you probably have a better sense of it, but it looks like you could have gone the next size up on the Lemtosh. I love these btw. Is that a Mismo bag ?
post #8622 of 16794
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

the issue though is that mastering the basics, in say, casual MC dress will translate will into other styles of dress. your issue is that you don't have enough of a 'base' wardrobe to really expand in a lot of different directions -- if you took your time, learned what's good on you, what works and what you like in one specific style of dress, and then built up the necessary pieces for that, it would be infinitely easier to translate your existing wardrobe into other areas. for example, if you had a good collection of business casual shoes, shirts and ties, then you could 'spice' up a few of your looks with more interesting pieces, like a soft shouldered sportcoat with an interesting pattern.

i am not trying though, to translate one style into another. i want to have a wardrobe for MC and MC casual, i do not understand why you think they have to translate into one another. i am not looking to "spice up" a business casual outfit. i am looking to have business outfits, business casual outfits, and casual outfit (though what i call casual, i think many here would call business casual). and that is exactly what i am doing now. trying different looks within those styles, and figuring out what i like best and what looks good on me, as those two are not always the same.

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as I've warned you before, you seem to have gotten caught up in the glow of SF purchases approval.. and it seems to have influenced what you purchase, which would be fine but you're still basically starting from scratch, and the items that get the most praise here aren't the most versatile and useful items (because they are boring), but the exaggerated last G&G loafers that only look good in 5% of the outfits you wear, or italian shirtings that a fancy name but don't particularly look good on your frame.

i do feel that many of my purchase choices were poor leading up to this point, but i dont think i was caught up in any glow of approval, i was more buying pieces that i thought were nice or interesting, not realizing that that does not translate into building a proper wardrobe. that is a mistake i am trying to remedy now.

and i dont know why so many people think those loafers are G&G, they are zegna couture. harumph! and i think the italian shirts i bought more recently are the best fitting shirts i have, particularly the barbas and borrellis.
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you also clearly want to model yourself after spoo, and that's great (and fine), but you seem to be missing a lot of the essential pieces that make his fits look good: everything is tailored to a tee, all of his shirts are pressed and all of his pants are sharply creased and hemmed to a perfect length. your stuff too often looks sloppy.

i like a lot what spoo does, but i would not say i am modeling myself after him. i take a lot of advise from him, but i am not looking to be spoo. also, he has a build that helps him greatly for suits and SCs. tall and not too thin. i do not. no mater how well my clothes fit, i do not think i would ever successfully emulate his look. i also have some country and CBD interests that i do not think he shares at all. as to sloppiness, maybe i look sloppy sometimes, but i also like to be comfortable. as far as i know, all my dress pants are creased just fine. also, i do not like zero break. i feel odd when i have tried that.

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just.. slow down. it's really kind of nuts that you're buying really niche selvedge pants which are honestly appropriate in like.. 5 settings when you're still lacking so many of other basic pieces.
you can ignore what i (and others) are saying, but ask yourself if you're happy with the last looks you've posted considering the amount of money and time you've spent putting them together.

maybe ill slow down, maybe not. hard to say, i may keep my pace, but with better choices. not sure why how much i buy is so bothersome to some people, as long as i am trying to improve. also, i dont see what is so niche about those chinos, they are basically staple navy chinos that happen to be selvedge.

i am not ignoring what anyone here is saying. i am absorbing it, and processing it, and moving forward how i feel most comfortable. i dont think i am required to liten to every stitch of advise i receive, not to mention, a lot of it is conflicting, as gdl pointed out. so i will take away what i feel is best for me.

my resent fits, some i am quite happy with, even ones that people here did not like. i probably will continue to wear some of them, just not post them. others i am less happy with, but i dont think anyone here would say they loved all their outfit choices, save vox maybe. for example, i am very happy with how i look tday, but do not think many here would agree with that. and that is fine. in the end, the most important thing is that one is happy with how they look.

and lastly, while it may be slow, i think i am definitely improving as i continue to post, and apply the advise that has been given to me. and i appreciate all of it, even the advise i do not implement, i appreciate and learn from it all.
post #8623 of 16794
Sticthypoo have you ever tried Levi's 501s? I don't think you can really go wrong there
post #8624 of 16794
Tiralleur's snug jacket looks great to me. It's a particular look that I happen to like. Not for everyone, but why would we want everyone to dress the same?

Also, words of wisdom from Holdfast re: shopping / planning ahead. I will vote for that one.
post #8625 of 16794
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Originally Posted by Tirailleur1 View Post

Sticthypoo have you ever tried Levi's 501s? I don't think you can really go wrong there

jawns? i dont do the jawns. either they are loose/comfortable and i look like a schlub, or they are fitted and look good, and i am insanely uncomfortable and end up adjusting various stitch parts and fidgeting all day, especially in more rigid denim. gross, i know. teh jawns. they are not for me. a lot of money and pain, but it is a reality i have come to terms with.
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Originally Posted by Parker View Post

Tiralleur's snug jacket looks great to me. It's a particular look that I happen to like. Not for everyone, but why would we want everyone to dress the same?
Also, words of wisdom from Holdfast re: shopping / planning ahead. I will vote for that one.

yes! 2 votes!!! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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