Originally Posted by Teger
the issue though is that mastering the basics, in say, casual MC dress will translate will into other styles of dress. your issue is that you don't have enough of a 'base' wardrobe to really expand in a lot of different directions -- if you took your time, learned what's good on you, what works and what you like in one specific style of dress, and then built up the necessary pieces for that, it would be infinitely easier to translate your existing wardrobe into other areas. for example, if you had a good collection of business casual shoes, shirts and ties, then you could 'spice' up a few of your looks with more interesting pieces, like a soft shouldered sportcoat with an interesting pattern.
i am not trying though, to translate one style into another. i want to have a wardrobe for MC and MC casual, i do not understand why you think they have to translate into one another. i am not looking to "spice up" a business casual outfit. i am looking to have business outfits, business casual outfits, and casual outfit (though what i call casual, i think many here would call business casual). and that is exactly what i am doing now. trying different looks within those styles, and figuring out what i like best and what looks good on me, as those two are not always the same.
as I've warned you before, you seem to have gotten caught up in the glow of SF purchases approval.. and it seems to have influenced what you purchase, which would be fine but you're still basically starting from scratch, and the items that get the most praise here aren't the most versatile and useful items (because they are boring), but the exaggerated last G&G loafers that only look good in 5% of the outfits you wear, or italian shirtings that a fancy name but don't particularly look good on your frame.
i do feel that many of my purchase choices were poor leading up to this point, but i dont think i was caught up in any glow of approval, i was more buying pieces that i thought were nice or interesting, not realizing that that does not translate into building a proper wardrobe. that is a mistake i am trying to remedy now.
and i dont know why so many people think those loafers are G&G, they are zegna couture. harumph! and i think the italian shirts i bought more recently are the best fitting shirts i have, particularly the barbas and borrellis.
you also clearly want to model yourself after spoo, and that's great (and fine), but you seem to be missing a lot of the essential pieces that make his fits look good: everything is tailored to a tee, all of his shirts are pressed and all of his pants are sharply creased and hemmed to a perfect length. your stuff too often looks sloppy.
i like a lot what spoo does, but i would not say i am modeling myself after him. i take a lot of advise from him, but i am not looking to be spoo. also, he has a build that helps him greatly for suits and SCs. tall and not too thin. i do not. no mater how well my clothes fit, i do not think i would ever successfully emulate his look. i also have some country and CBD interests that i do not think he shares at all. as to sloppiness, maybe i look sloppy sometimes, but i also like to be comfortable. as far as i know, all my dress pants are creased just fine. also, i do not like zero break. i feel odd when i have tried that.
just.. slow down. it's really kind of nuts that you're buying really niche selvedge pants which are honestly appropriate in like.. 5 settings when you're still lacking so many of other basic pieces.
you can ignore what i (and others) are saying, but ask yourself if you're happy with the last looks you've posted considering the amount of money and time you've spent putting them together.
maybe ill slow down, maybe not. hard to say, i may keep my pace, but with better choices. not sure why how much i buy is so bothersome to some people, as long as i am trying to improve. also, i dont see what is so niche about those chinos, they are basically staple navy chinos that happen to be selvedge.
i am not ignoring what anyone here is saying. i am absorbing it, and processing it, and moving forward how i feel most comfortable. i dont think i am required to liten to every stitch of advise i receive, not to mention, a lot of it is conflicting, as gdl pointed out. so i will take away what i feel is best for me.
my resent fits, some i am quite happy with, even ones that people here did not like. i probably will continue to wear some of them, just not post them. others i am less happy with, but i dont think anyone here would say they loved all their outfit choices, save vox maybe. for example, i am very happy with how i look tday, but do not think many here would agree with that. and that is fine. in the end, the most important thing is that one is happy with how they look.
and lastly, while it may be slow, i think i am definitely improving as i continue to post, and apply the advise that has been given to me. and i appreciate all of it, even the advise i do not implement, i appreciate and learn from it all.