LA Guy: Your point is well-taken and, as with all of your posts, intelligently articulated. Â But: Â Though I've never made a Patrick Bateman-related post, I suspect you may underestimate those in this forum who have. Â I can't speak for any of those posters, but I think they know that Bateman is a kind of satire (a funny indictment of a person, an era, a mindset), a cartoon or a caricature of sorts, and not to be taken all that seriously. Â I suspect they know that lopping off a head after pontificating whether "Sussudio" is the finest cut off of Phil Collins' brilliant "No Jacket Required" (which, by the way, it so clearly is) isn't necessarily all that stylish. But what Bateman- and American Psycho- is, is funny and clever and, for those in this forum, a great way to laugh at themselves while still staying themselves. Â One of the most important traits a self-confident person can have in my estimation is the ability to laugh at themselves in a self-deprecating manner- few characteristics are more charming (as long as not overdone-that's bad), and people who can't do it usually aren't all that likeable or endearing. Â I think their listing of Bateman as an icon is done with a knowing wink- that they recognize what's up. Â That they recognize the character of Bateman, to some extent, makes fun of them (and us) but that it's still pretty funny and cool. See, there are many (if not most) in the world outside this forum who would argue that all of us in here are Batemanesque just by spending time in here on what is, in essence, minutiae- even though it's important to us, we recognize that we're not curing cancer, just having fun by posting on better ways to Â enhance the quality of your life (all that style is anyway- a smarter, better, cooler, sexier way to live). Â I'm sure they all recognize that, and Bateman is just a hyper-exaggerated version of that. Â Acknowledging Bateman is, I think, a kind of poke at what we're doing here. Â Kind of like an intelligent, educated career woman thinking of Pam Anderson or Marilyn Monroe as icons- knowing that they, too, are "cartoons" (but what great cartoons they are, huh?) and exaggerated versions of real women whose lives they wouldn't want to emulate in every respect- but parts of whom every woman would do well to emulate (awareness of their sexuality, etc.) Â Same deal here- I doubt that any of the Bateman posters here mean to say that his character is a complete blueprint for how to live- but instead that (as we all believe) its absolutely OK for guys to be conscious of, and serious about, appearances, clothing, skin care products, etc.- but not to take it too seriously, in lieu of what's truly important in life. Then again, I could be wrong.