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Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (2011)

post #1 of 45
7/6/11 at 3:25pm
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I'm a big John le Carre fan, and the George Smiley/Karla novels are truly his masterpiece. The 1979 BBC miniseries with Alec Guinness as Smiley is absolutely brilliant. The new film, slated for September 16, 2011, boasts a pretty solid cast: Benedict Cumberbatch, Colin Firth, Tom Hardy, Gary Oldman, Mark Strong, John Hurt). I will definitely be going to see this, but I'm worried that they have upped the amount of action in the story to appease modern audiences.
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post #2 of 45
7/6/11 at 6:00pm
Same here. Love those books, love that Alec Guinness TV series version of Tinker Tailor. Will also definitely see this new movie but will be very worried about a disappointment. Le Carres earlier stuff is
holy and should not be fooled around with.
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post #3 of 45
7/6/11 at 6:05pm
Know nothing about this bt it looks like awesome defined.
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post #4 of 45
7/6/11 at 7:32pm
I was inspired to check out the book from the library after seeing the trailer last week. So far, not really enjoying it. I don't like that's it written as if the reader is already familiar with the world of espionage and its lingo. And I don't particularly like the scenes involving characters relaying lengthy anecdotes to someone. Imagine mini versions of the Council of Elrond from the Fellowship of The Ring, and you'll know what I'm talking about. The trailer makes it seem more exciting than (it so far) actually is.
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post #5 of 45
7/6/11 at 8:17pm
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I'm a big John le Carre fan, and the George Smiley/Karla novels are truly his masterpiece. The 1979 BBC miniseries with Alec Guinness as Smiley is absolutely brilliant. The new film, slated for September 16, 2011, boasts a pretty solid cast: Benedict Cumberbatch, Colin Firth, Tom Hardy, Gary Oldman, Mark Strong, John Hurt).

I will definitely be going to see this, but I'm worried that they have upped the amount of action in the story to appease modern audiences.
Watched it as a teenager when it first aired, and have watched it twice on YT in the last year. Probably one of my all time favourite pieces of TV/film. Love the pacing, the understated acting.
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post #6 of 45
7/6/11 at 9:58pm
ok, I have to say it - the beauty of le care is the lack of exagerated action. their is the potential to fuck this up.
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post #7 of 45
7/6/11 at 10:08pm
Doesn't matter. Go see it, tell your friends and family to go see it. World needs to see 'The Honorable Schoolboy' more than anything. Nobody saw 'The Good Shepherd' and therefore we didn't get to see the obvious sequel.
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post #8 of 45
7/6/11 at 11:39pm
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Doesn't matter. Go see it, tell your friends and family to go see it. World needs to see 'The Honorable Schoolboy' more than anything. Nobody saw 'The Good Shepherd' and therefore we didn't get to see the obvious sequel.

I always wondered why the BBC didn't include Honorable Schoolboy as part of the miniseries; I suspect it was because it veered away a little too far from Smiley and the hunt for Karla (even though it's tied in with it all).
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post #9 of 45
7/6/11 at 11:50pm
Too expensive to do the location work also.
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post #10 of 45
7/7/11 at 11:49pm
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Originally Posted by Dr Huh? View Post
I was inspired to check out the book from the library after seeing the trailer last week. So far, not really enjoying it. I don't like that's it written as if the reader is already familiar with the world of espionage and its lingo. And I don't particularly like the scenes involving characters relaying lengthy anecdotes to someone. Imagine mini versions of the Council of Elrond from the Fellowship of The Ring, and you'll know what I'm talking about. The trailer makes it seem more exciting than (it so far) actually is.

It's not everyone's cup of tea.

In a lot of ways the book is more about the suspense, various intrigues, and the differing motivations of the characters than it is about the action itself; I can see how someone wouldn't be into it, but at the same time I think the series - especially Tinker, Tailor - is excellent.
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post #11 of 45
7/7/11 at 11:52pm
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I always wondered why the BBC didn't include Honorable Schoolboy as part of the miniseries; I suspect it was because it veered away a little too far from Smiley and the hunt for Karla (even though it's tied in with it all).

They did it on radio.
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post #12 of 45
7/8/11 at 12:49am
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They did it on radio.

Enjoyable I'm sure - I love old time radio shows - but not the same as the BBC miniseries.
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post #13 of 45
7/8/11 at 1:33am
The original was perfect, no need for a remake. And I really mean perfect.... not a single flawed aspect, and one of the few true television masterpieces. I just picked up the novel again, haven't read it since I was a teenager.
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post #14 of 45
7/8/11 at 8:52am
That trailer in the OP didn't look too promising, Hollywood and understated is a bit of an oxymoron. The original BBC version here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQFPDuTGsqk (Some cool clothes as well)
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post #15 of 45
7/8/11 at 10:17am
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Originally Posted by L.R. View Post
The original was perfect, no need for a remake. And I really mean perfect.... not a single flawed aspect, and one of the few true television masterpieces. I just picked up the novel again, haven't read it since I was a teenager.

Ehh, I don't know. The movie certainly won't be as good as the miniseries, but as long it doesn't ruin the story I think it'll be a nice addition.
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