Originally Posted by Kamapuaa
I am not a cowboy and in fact I think cowboys are mouth-breathing morons. Why should I care what brand of jeans they originally preferred? I don't baby my jeans, but if I purchase a pair of even the cheapest jeans, I expect that they'll last basically forever. So why should I care about one denim lasting longer than another? For all the fetishization of which pants get purchased by the working man, don't poor people just buy the $30 jeans from Wal-Mart or department stores? Why is that unauthentic? Is it, American working man from the 1950's?
Others have already chimed in and have done well in calling out the holes in your argument, but at the risk of beating a dead horse I'll answer you. The fact that concerns like yours exist after this many pages and my long-winded responses can only mean that there are still many like you reading this and still not getting the points. I'll admit it's getting to be a bit like hitting my head against the wall but I'd prefer to make things crystal for the record.
Believe it or not, denim is a hobby. No one is pushing you at gun point into a store like Self Edge and demanding that you enjoy your $300 purchase. Whether you care or don't about the history of a garment doesn't take away its intrinsic value; you don't get a discount for not giving a shit.
How can you write with a straight face that if you purchase the cheapest possible versions of a product, you'd "expect that they'll last forever?" Need I remind you of the kind of forum of which you are currently a member and of the threads in which you read and post?
Pay attention, folks: Denim enthusiasts purchase "expensive" jeans for many reasons, of which often its longevity may not be top priority.
Compare this with suits, shoes, cars, homes, and condoms. Simply put, most would prefer a purchase last a lifetime but if it doesn't satisfy for a myriad of other reasons then it's basically worthless. This is a basic general concept of the human condition; if it's lost on you then I'd suggest you stop reading here and perhaps back away slowly from this forum.
Your understanding of the "festishization" is poor and is clearly drawn partly from limited information and mostly from filling in the gaps yourself via preconceptions, misconceptions, and bias. Perhaps because you equate jeans with cowboys and miners, or "working men," you assume that our fascination extends to their current-day counterparts and their spending habits. To give you a comparison, this is like asking a man who owns a custom 1950 Chevy Bel Air why he didn't buy a 2010 Chevy Cobalt if he cared so much about what a poor "working man" would buy.
As I explained before, authenticity is the honest origin of a product.
"Working man" jeans sold for $30 today are not the same jeans working men purchased back then. Jeans were revolutionized in the 60s to be produced and sold cheaper, and later third-world outsourcing further emphasized bottom-line price over quality. The same can be said for virtually every branch of the garment industry and many other industries as well. Denim enthusiasts willingly and happily pay a premium for products that are near-exact reproductions
of items from 50-100 years ago, or products that take a similar approach in fabrication but add their own twist. Authentic. Reproduction.
Originally Posted by Kamapuaa
This is particularly true on a Men's Style forum, where people view jeans as casual clothes that you wear when you don't really care. Furthermore, people are presumably capable of choosing which cut looks good without consulting obscure historic trends.
One button, two button, three button, single breast, double breast suits. Saddle, brogue, monk, and plain toe shoes. I'm pretty sure most MCers are familiar with historic trends, albeit the more obscure ones.
For most mouth-breathers outside this forum, jeans are rather classic and iconic. Some have chosen to pay more attention to this trend than others.