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post #2191 of 2217
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Originally Posted by tullytra View Post

That's the way to go. You won't have to deal with the 15 minutes of garbage between picks. All I want to hear between picks is the interview with the draftee. I'll have 5 months to hear all about their strengths and weaknesses heading into the season.
Here's every 'i just got picked by a team' interview:
"I'm really excited to go to <team name here> and work with the great <head coach>. We had a chance to meet and I'm really excited about his vision for the future. I plan to give it my all, impress the fanbase come minicamps, and win the superbowl."
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

I don't get the whole draft-industrial complex. There's months of analysis beforehand, a multi-day spectacle of picks, then analysis afterwards. I basically just look at the list of picks the day after, see who came out from my alma mater, who went to my favorite teams, then read a few analysis of the picks made. Why would I care about some idiot at ESPN trying to predict who goes where in March?
You're preaching to the choir. Beyond knowing all the people's relative skills (because I couldn't give two fucks about college ball), I don't want some moron with an IQ of 20 (ie: most professional analysts on TV) psychoanalyzing someone/a team like he knows what he's doing.

Also, fuck the browns are stupid. I sincerely believe MN was bluffing about trading down to Miami and getting out of the blue-chip guaranteed players they need. But hey, we'll take the extra 4 picks. AND WE GOT MATT KALIL, BITCHES.
post #2192 of 2217
awesome, Miami gets Akili Smith 2012. couldn't get Peyton, couldn't even tank good enough (stopped tanking last year to save their coach's job, who got fired anyway) to get Luck or RG3
post #2193 of 2217
WTF are the Browns thinking? 4 picks, including the 4th overall, for a running back? No wonder that team hasn't been to the playoffs since the 90s.

EDIT: I guess they went in 2003.
post #2194 of 2217
I think it's funny how the draftees give everyone the jive handshake and/or fistbump, even the super white commish.
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So many teams passed on David DeCastro WTF. Most surpising is the Bears, who have a shitty-to-mediorcre line
post #2197 of 2217
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Originally Posted by gort View Post

I think it's funny how the draftees give everyone the jive handshake and/or fistbump, even the super white commish.

And the commish is pretty smooth about it. I think it was a safety from Alabama who waltzed out there, and the two of them looked like friends being reunited. For some reason I doubt David Stern (is he still NBA Commissioner?) is as hip.
post #2198 of 2217
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

WTF are the Browns thinking? 4 picks, including the 4th overall, for a running back? No wonder that team hasn't been to the playoffs since the 90s.
EDIT: I guess they went in 2003.

I don't think the Browns moving up one spot, or drafting Richardson at that spot, were terrible decisions. The Browns have a ton of lower-round picks, and they wanted to make sure they got their man after their failed attempt to land the #2 pick. Yes, the NFL is moving away from the running game, but running backs are more valuable in the AFC North, which contains four cold-weather cities and no domes. The other possibility here was Blackmon, who is not as good a receiver as Richardson is a running back.
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

I don't think the Browns moving up one spot, or drafting Richardson at that spot, were terrible decisions. The Browns have a ton of lower-round picks, and they wanted to make sure they got their man after their failed attempt to land the #2 pick. Yes, the NFL is moving away from the running game, but running backs are more valuable in the AFC North, which contains four cold-weather cities and no domes. The other possibility here was Blackmon, who is not as good a receiver as Richardson is a running back.
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Originally Posted by deadly7 View Post

Also, fuck the browns are stupid. I sincerely believe MN was bluffing about trading down to Miami and getting out of the blue-chip guaranteed players they need. But hey, we'll take the extra 4 picks. AND WE GOT MATT KALIL, BITCHES.

. I'm not questioning the pick, just the trade.
post #2200 of 2217
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

I don't think the Browns moving up one spot, or drafting Richardson at that spot, were terrible decisions. The Browns have a ton of lower-round picks, and they wanted to make sure they got their man after their failed attempt to land the #2 pick. Yes, the NFL is moving away from the running game, but running backs are more valuable in the AFC North, which contains four cold-weather cities and no domes. The other possibility here was Blackmon, who is not as good a receiver as Richardson is a running back.

Richardson is a great RB, no question, but the life span of an RB in the NFL these days is so short. I wouldn't give away that many picks unless I was getting a franchise QB or maybe a can't miss lineman that you could build a team around. It's not like the Browns are a running back away from the playoffs.
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post #2202 of 2217
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Originally Posted by deadly7 View Post

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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

I don't think the Browns moving up one spot, or drafting Richardson at that spot, were terrible decisions. The Browns have a ton of lower-round picks, and they wanted to make sure they got their man after their failed attempt to land the #2 pick. Yes, the NFL is moving away from the running game, but running backs are more valuable in the AFC North, which contains four cold-weather cities and no domes. The other possibility here was Blackmon, who is not as good a receiver as Richardson is a running back.
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Originally Posted by deadly7 View Post

Also, fuck the browns are stupid. I sincerely believe MN was bluffing about trading down to Miami and getting out of the blue-chip guaranteed players they need. But hey, we'll take the extra 4 picks. AND WE GOT MATT KALIL, BITCHES.

. I'm not questioning the pick, just the trade.
yeah, and why would the Browns trade up one spot when the team in front of them is the only one guaranteed NOT to pick a running back? even if 'sota traded down, Miami wasn't going to pick an RB third either.
post #2203 of 2217
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Richardson is a great RB, no question, but the life span of an RB in the NFL these days is so short. I wouldn't give away that many picks unless I was getting a franchise QB or maybe a can't miss lineman that you could build a team around. It's not like the Browns are a running back away from the playoffs.

+1, also it's relatively easy to find similar value in later rounds for running backs. Lots of analysts question taking RBs in the first round period, unless they're a transcendent talent like Peterson. Giving up a bunch of picks to move up one spot to snag Richardson seems silly.
post #2204 of 2217
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

yeah, and why would the Browns trade up one spot when the team in front of them is the only one guaranteed NOT to pick a running back? even if 'sota traded down, Miami wasn't going to pick an RB third either.

They probably traded up with Minn mainly to guarantee that Minn doesn't trade down with anyone else. They also had like 13 picks and it's not like Cleveland was going to draft well with all those picks anyway. The bigger joke is drafting Weeden in the 1st round.
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Originally Posted by Texasmade View Post

They probably traded up with Minn mainly to guarantee that Minn doesn't trade down with anyone else. They also had like 13 picks and it's not like Cleveland was going to draft well with all those picks anyway. The bigger joke is drafting Weeden in the 1st round.

From the [limited] film I've seen, Weeden's a good QB with a solid arm. He'll learn pro-style offenses and defenses in the years to come. Probably not a Brady/Rodgers/Manning, and a guaranteed reach at 22, but he should provide good competition with McCoy.
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