Originally Posted by DWFII
^+1 I have often said or implied that among all manufactured shoes there is very little difference between brands (from high to low) with regard to fundamental techniques and/or even materials. So what are you paying the "big bucks" for...aside from brand cachet, I mean? In such cases, I think it is the elegance of the design, the refinement and the meticulousness of the workmanship, the overall cleanliness and excellence of the finish. "Presentation is everything." And it is a big part of that price. I am of the opinion that such "slippages" and such oversights are all part of a natural and inevitable progression in the manufacturing sector from quality to quantity. To the extent that people throw up their hands and "accept" ...do not at least bring it to the attention of the maker...they only hasten that progression and devalue the price they paid. Just a thought...
Originally Posted by 888style
A 5 months wait and then being disappointed like this....... Not a really good recipe for creating a repeat customer.
Originally Posted by Will
All to be expected in my experience. I had about a dozen pair of MTO and have given more than half away. The soles split and need regular trimming, something I have never had on any other shoes. The edges have blade marks. The sides of my boots were cut sloppily so there are ripples. They use shoe laces on boots. And on and on with small issues I never had with EG for the same money
June gloom lifted today in San Diego, and I took a good look at the shoes in natural light. The dark spots in the pictures are not damage to the grain but small depressions that catch the light so as to look very dark in the pictures. I don't know what caused them, some sort of tool misused I imagine. The other defects are sloppiness in the application of antiquing. In all, the defects aren't bad enough to make me return the shoes, and I am sure I will forget all about this after a few wears and polishes, but I agree with the comments above and others that, at these prices, this level of imperfection isn't acceptable. If these were Aldens or C&Js, I wouldn't even have thought about it, let alone started a thread. But G&Gs are roughly twice the price, and one of the things I'm paying for is refinement and attention to detail. I will email both Nick A. at Bespoke England and G & G about the defects. I will then forget about the whole thing, wear the shoes, and enjoy them. But my plans to make this the first of several G&G orders may change. And that's a shame because their lasts seem to fit me better than any of the other English makers.