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Originally Posted by Gianni Cerutti View Post
 

 

In my opinion you can not compare with Bestetti Meccariello. I say this to customer Bestetti and insider. Reading your post I went to look at the website of Meccariello and blogs that talk about him. This is to see the latest news before speaking. Looking at photos of Meccariello and Bestetti I'm noticing this.

 

Meanwhile, in my opinion can not be compared with Bestetti Meccariello. When I look at my shoes and Bestetti MTO I see refinement, taste, correct proportions, craftsmanship, art and pursuit of aesthetic perfection and comfort. Also because I have two very special walk. When I load the body weight on the foot widen much and one is a little crooked. And this shape of my feet was a problem until I met Bestetti. In fact, before I bothered any shoe. But now I am reborn, I have the pleasure of walking. And all this with its MTO. I can not wait to see my bespoke Gladietor that is driving me to enjoy it even more. And he thinks that the MTO has already crazy and unique finishes. In fact, even for the RTW care Bestetti is manic. And this is not to be biased but just look at the pictures to understand.

 

Looking at your shoes instead of Meccariello see a simple shoe, sometimes too heavy as style and certainly less refined than Bestetti. And this is the shoe of the test or not. Also because the aesthetic sense of beauty and good taste or you have it inside in the DNA or not you'll ever have.

 

My sincere hope that this personal reflections may be of help for your final decision.

 

Thanks Gianni for your detailed reply. I really appreciate it and will definitely keep in mind when I make the purchase.

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Originally Posted by C&A View Post


Dear Gianni, comparing Meccariello's standard rtw and mto offerings with Bestetti's novecento or bespoke shoes is like comparing apples and pears. Like both j ingvaldsson and I pointed out there is a HUGE price difference between the two. They are not at the same level and targeting quite different markets.

I agree that Bestetti's current offerngs have great detailing and have a very high level of finishing. Riccardo has really upped his game in the last 5 years or so. I think if you do a good google search you will also find shoes by Riccardo from before that date that have the same or similar deficiencies like the ones you spotted when doing your internet due diligence on Meccariello.

As j ingvaldsson and I mentioned it should be fair to compare Riccardo's novecento line and Antonio's Aurum line when the latter is launched in the next month or so. The pictures of the test shoes I saw were quite impressive to be honest. But that does not take away anything from Riccardo's mastery, as emphasized in my posts here above and earlier in this thread.

 

I agree with the comparison being apples vs. oranges. To be honest, I guess I really wanted to know which one gives more value. Meccariello gives last adjustment in his RTW pricing. Novocento provides last adjustment feature but at higher price. I did not realize that there would be that much difference in finishing (to my untrained eye). Like you said, Meccariello RTW vs Bestetti RTW or Aurum vs. Novocento would be more fair. Best would be to try both. Sorry, I wont pollute the thread further.

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Originally Posted by ThinkDerm View Post



this is my favorite model, design and last wise. the others are too snouty.

 

This is a similar Meccariello version to address the questions between the two.

 

 

While I'd agree that they lack some of the refinement you find in the Bestetti, I paid considerably less. This is of course a reflection on neither maker, but on their chosen market segment. I cannot wait to see Meccariello's new line and I equally admire Bestetti's work. In reality I cannot reasonably afford either makers top work at this time, so the cheaper price point does give me the chance to own something special.

 

Edit: To answer the above question, Meccariello provides more value in terms of the fact that you have a comfortable shoe that you can get from walking in place to place at a lower price.

 

Besetetti is providing an artistic talent and top level of finishing.

 

Which has more value comes down to a personal weighting between those two. In reality you would probably be very happy with both.

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Originally Posted by madridista View Post
 

 

Thanks Gianni for your detailed reply. I really appreciate it and will definitely keep in mind when I make the purchase.

 

 

But thanks to you for your kind words. I am very happy to know that you like my answer.

post #754 of 1177
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Originally Posted by madridista View Post

@j ingevaldsson
 

Your buying guides and blog are very helpful. I was wondering whether you can compare quality and fit of Bestetti and Meccariello shoes since you have both of them. From what I read, Antonio will adjust lasts based on measurements but will not send trial pair like Bestetti semi-bespoke, am I correct? Both of them seem very appealing to me, just want to decide the order in which I want to spend money smile.gif Thanks!

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post #755 of 1177
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Originally Posted by MSchapiro View Post

This is a similar Meccariello version to address the questions between the two.




While I'd agree that they lack some of the refinement you find in the Bestetti, I paid considerably less. This is of course a reflection on neither maker, but on their chosen market segment. I cannot wait to see Meccariello's new line and I equally admire Bestetti's work. In reality I cannot reasonably afford either makers top work at this time, so the cheaper price point does give me the chance to own something special.

Edit: To answer the above question, Meccariello provides more value in terms of the fact that you have a comfortable shoe that you can get from walking in place to place at a lower price.

Besetetti is providing an artistic talent and top level of finishing.

Which has more value comes down to a personal weighting between those two. In reality you would probably be very happy with both.

Comparing that big beefy shoe with the refined elegance of the Bestettione above is comparing apples and pears. Which is not to say Antonio does not do elegant.
post #756 of 1177

While I agree that they are different, I wouldn't call that model beefy :D. I find it to be quite refined in person. Of course my wide feet may be throwing you off.

 

To me they are 80% the same (in general terms). The Bestetti, however, is more elegant in how elongated the vamp and the finishing around the welt.

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Originally Posted by meister View Post


Comparing that big beefy shoe with the refined elegance of the Bestettione above is comparing apples and pears. Which is not to say Antonio does not do elegant.

I agree with your statements. You said well, compare with Bestetti Meccariello is like comparing apples to pears.

post #758 of 1177

So I've been in more talks with Riccardo...I have sent him photos of my bare feet, in thin socks, and in various brands of shoes including Crockett & Jones, G&G, and Saint Crispins and he has been advising me on the lasts.

 

Now it is basically up to what I want to order...and the choices are very difficult, because just about every shoe I see by him is more beautiful than the one before.

 

I was on his tumblr and stumbled across these beauties...I'm not a big fan of the orangish hue but the the triple stiching and the diamond brogue WOW - zoom in to see the master craftsmanship

 

 

 

 

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I love this one.
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Ooops, I meant this one smile.gif
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post #762 of 1177

^^^Agree, those are just wonderful! Would choose 5 eyelets though.

post #763 of 1177

Pretty sure it is a bespoke not a novecento hence the 6 eyelets.

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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post
 

Pretty sure it is a bespoke not a novecento hence the 6 eyelets.

 

Yeah, might be bespoke. But if it's 6 eyelets has nothing to do with that, you can make any model, also one's he never has done before, in Novecento line. The only difference compared to full bespoke is that it's just adjusted standard lasts, not all customized lasts.

post #765 of 1177

True, but it may also have been done to ensure an appropriate fit for a bespoke customer.

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