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post #181 of 230
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Originally Posted by SimonSays View Post

If the stickied threads 'box' were removed then the threads wouldn't no longer remain on the top of the forums, they'd no longer be stickied :/

The page loading is really bothering me now though, every page causes my computer to stall for 30-45 seconds, may not sound like much, but the net operates in miliseconds so this is fucking lame.

That will improve. Right now, our back end is working like hooker in TJ, trying to "learn" the system. Once that is done, the load on the server will drop a lot.
post #182 of 230
I would echo the sidebar ads as being the most distracting new 'feature'....perhaps that's the point. I really enjoyed this place but I will notify my employer that my productivity is going to increase from here on out. biggrin.gif I respect that this is a business, or at the very least has associated costs, and that the folks running the show have always sought to improve the place.....BUT....If I wanted to look at ads all over the f*cking place I would read magazines. If I wanted to shop in an environment that was like Ebay I would shop on Ebay.
post #183 of 230
This sidebar is fucking obnoxious. It's funny, after all the herds migrated to Styleforum from Superfuture, while being extremely vocal about their disdain for their new design, you guys pull the exact same shit. The simplicity of the old design was a beautiful thing.

On edit: And what the fuck is with this ridiculous default avatar?
post #184 of 230
I do not want to come across as an ass (although not too worried if you take it that way), but all of this seems like an afterthought. It is like building a house without an architect, a collection of random (mostly very good) features that are all but integrated seamlessly. Styleforum is an amazing community that I contribute absolutely nothing to, but I still feel like it should/could have equally as impressive website. There is a difference between good web development and good design – and there are plenty of people who can do both well. I am not sure what the problem is here: money, size of the project or is it simply that you are going for good enough instead of great. And if the latter is true that is absolutely fine, albeit a bit ironical given the nature of the forum.

Bottom line: Somebody forgot to pay the architect and it shows.
post #185 of 230
Huge change. No idea what to think of the new look. The B&S looks like ebay.
post #186 of 230
So building on that last post....and being positive here for a brief second....congratulations on the successful switchover. I remember the crash in 2003, I think it was, and I am sure a lot of work went into preventing a massive repeat. Now that you've picked up an entire village and relocated it will there possibly be some architectural adjustments. I honestly find this site to be one of the biggest eyesores I have ever come across but the more I stare at it the more I think it just needs some thought and reorganization and then it can upgrade to 'tolerable in small doses'.
post #187 of 230
I sent this message to the mods but wanted to try crowdsourcing a solution as well. How can someone like me sell most effectively in the new system?

I'm ttrying to wrap my mind around the new system for selling.

As you know, my goal in vbulletin with the Flusser sale stock was to do a tree of threads, with central thread answering queries and leading to the separate category threads for ties, suits, etc.

I managed to load ties and cloth before the changeover, getting the last bits up just before the changeover. Business was brisk.

On the first day of the new system, sales are way down. At the moment, being in the archive is as good as being disappeared.

My question is, If I become a $50/week powerseller, is there any way to link and promote my listings as a group? How can someone browse just Flusser...how can someone browse just me?

I'm willing to pay for service, but I want to understand how the service works.

I understand how the banner ads work for those with independent websites, and I understand how it might work for occasional sellers, esp when the indexing is complete.

I know the new system is a work in progress.

Please advise.
post #188 of 230
Ive been trying to wrap my head around this new format and i just cant. The ads on the side are an eyesore and poorly placed, the design of the site is bad, its hard to navigate and very slow. The B&S forum was my favorite place to look and check out mega sales threads, but the new design and one item per listing is so awful i just dont even want to bother looking there now, let alone buy or sell anything.

When i first started using this forum it was extremely easy to just jump into and get the hang things the first time i visited. This is just an awful mess of a forum that makes a daily user like me not want to bother coming back.
post #189 of 230
I hope this doesn't turn into another Superfuture design mess. Please change the background colour back to the original one, something about it isn't too pleasing to the eye (at least I think that's the problem, can't quite put my finger on it).

And what's up with the default avi? lol.
post #190 of 230
Come on guys, its not that bad. confused.gif
Currently the B&S doesn't work for me as a buyer or seller, but the mods said they will fix it as soon as possible.
The placement of adds is pretty bad, but the mods said they will fix it as soon as possible.
The site is currently very slow, but the mods said they will fix it as soon as possible.

I am 100% sure SF will be up and running like it was in a few days/weeks.
post #191 of 230
Man, just read about the new system with featured seller memberships and whatnot. Cant help but feel like these changes were basically to become eBay and sell out what was once a free and no frills community. Not that you guys don't have every right to do so.
post #192 of 230
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Originally Posted by mack11211 View Post

I sent this message to the mods but wanted to try crowdsourcing a solution as well. How can someone like me sell most effectively in the new system?

I'm ttrying to wrap my mind around the new system for selling.

As you know, my goal in vbulletin with the Flusser sale stock was to do a tree of threads, with central thread answering queries and leading to the separate category threads for ties, suits, etc.

I managed to load ties and cloth before the changeover, getting the last bits up just before the changeover. Business was brisk.

On the first day of the new system, sales are way down. At the moment, being in the archive is as good as being disappeared.

My question is, If I become a $50/week powerseller, is there any way to link and promote my listings as a group? How can someone browse just Flusser...how can someone browse just me?

I'm willing to pay for service, but I want to understand how the service works.

I understand how the banner ads work for those with independent websites, and I understand how it might work for occasional sellers, esp when the indexing is complete.

I know the new system is a work in progress.

Please advise.


Just got a reply from LA Guy:

You can post your other active listings in a listing. However, it's not necessary, because a seller's other listings are actually shown in the right hand column of that listing, sort of like a mix between an Amazon "show more items" and a built in Ebay store.

I know that it's a big step, but I am confident that ultimately, this system will lead to more browsing by buyers and more sales for sellers.
post #193 of 230
One other thing I'd like to see in the new Classifieds section is some of the community threads that were pinned at the top of the B&S.

In particular:


ebay suits, sportcoats, and other clothing

Cool Shoes, Paraphernalia & Desiderata

"What I'm Selling on eBay" - member auctions



I understand how SF would like more of the ebay auction, and how it is better than ebay for many sellers & sales.

but there will always be attractive things there that are not here, as the SF show ticker recognizes.

There should also be some 'best practices' thread where Classified sellers can help one another sell better.

In the current format there is no way to start these threads at all.

I hope this will be corrected.
post #194 of 230
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Originally Posted by mack11211 View Post

One other thing I'd like to see in the new Classifieds section is some of the community threads that were pinned at the top of the B&S.

In particular:


ebay suits, sportcoats, and other clothing

Cool Shoes, Paraphernalia & Desiderata

"What I'm Selling on eBay" - member auctions



I understand how SF would like more of the ebay auction, and how it is better than ebay for many sellers & sales.

but there will always be attractive things there that are not here, as the SF show ticker recognizes.

There should also be some 'best practices' thread where Classified sellers can help one another sell better.

In the current format there is no way to start these threads at all.

I hope this will be corrected.

We can probably implement some of this stuff - probably house it in a hidden subsection of general, but have it linked to the stickied header. That can be worked on. I liked the Ebay and Feedback and "help each other" threads too.

The rules...

I wish there was a better place to put them, but as history has shown. If not in your face, no one reads. They should be pretty obvious, but clearly, they were not, and I think that mayhem would ensue if I just put them. If someone has a better idea, I'd be open to it.
post #195 of 230
LA Guy,

First, let me say that I think the new Buy/Sell format is promising and goes a long way in fixing some issues, but at the same time, I'm unsure if the finished product is much more "efficient" or "easy to use" than the old system. I will agree it is more "informative", in the sense that I can see what each classified contains.

Part of what made my Buy/Sell browsing experience so successful was the fact that typically, I didn't know what I would be looking for. So I would just browse until something caught my eye.
Thus, I'd scan a bunch of FS thread titles, and try clicking on one to see if there was anything good. This wasn't that tedious. You do have a fair point when you say that the new changes in Buy/Sell make it far easier to see what is actually being sold, rather than clicking and spending time to read through it, but I think you guys offset this gain because:
1. One item per listing means that multiple items sales threads evolve into 10+ classified postings.
2. Showing more information per classified means less available postings to view and glance at once. I actually get fatigued trying to go through the Buy/Sell forums, there's just too much text, pictures, and spacing. I can't quickly scan and glane my way through them.

There's a reason why browsing ebay sucks. There's way too many listings and way too many pages to go through. At least with the old system, with combined seller threads, and what seemed to be a good balance of visible threads per page, I could get through 5-8 pages of the FS threads quickly. Now 5-8 pages is more like 8-13 pages, and a far slower process at that.

Does anyone echo my sentiment?

Hope this helps and good luck with everything else.
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