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Resin, One Wash, Raw, Dry - What's The Difference?

post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 
I know raw and dry are the same, but what's the difference in resin and one wash, or is it resin one wash and it's the same thing? and how is that different from raw? like how would you treat it differently. i'm so confused!
post #2 of 33
one wash is what it sounds like... jeans that have gone through one wash, genearaly done to get initial shrinkage out of the way, making it easier for consumers to buy the right size
post #3 of 33
also im not too sure but i think resin is just the treatment done to denim which gives it the sheen/shine... i forget what it is for exactly
post #4 of 33
Resin is a process or type of wash applied to typically dark jeans to make them softer and/or shiny (Jake Agave's an example). Raw/dry literally means the fabric has never been washed during the entire process while one-wash literally means they were washed-once before you bought them. Raw/dry jeans will shrink dramatically the first time you wash them whereas one-wash jeans, including sanfordized, typically won't shrink as much* after another wash. People here may throw around "raw" to mean the same thing as one-wash because most SF'ers buy unprocessed/untouched jeans in the sense of a blank canvas in which to create their art. *Shrinkage varies widely by brand, fabric, etc.
post #5 of 33
Thread Starter 
couple of other questions.

I heard the fading process changes after you wash your jeans. I heard it still fades after you wash, but in a different way than before you washed. Therefore, my question is: is the fading different from a one-wash compared to raw? Also, are one-washes the same heaviness/stiffness as raw?

As far as resin, does this somehow affect the process of breaking to the jeans such as changing the fading or creases?
post #6 of 33
#1: a) Imagine jeans as starting off deep blue and slowly progressing their way to near-white. As an extreme example, would you see much fading/creasing on a pair of white jeans? Not washing jeans (or washing them in dark woolite) helps to preserve their original dark color, thus making the wear that much more visible and striking. That said, fading depends on usage and brand more than whether it's raw or one-wash. APC's and Julian Red's appear to fade like crazy but then if you're someone like CheapMutha, it doesn't matter what you wear: it WILL fade. b)Heaviness/stiffness has to do with the fabric and not the wash. Not all jeans are created equal. Heavier jeans=more stiffness. #2: If it's a resin you'll be attempting to escape Alcatraz if you want to get the same kind of fading you see on one-wash/raw's. Resin's just a layer over the fabric that will try its damnedest to prevent the friction/stiffness needed for the fading you're thinking of.
post #7 of 33
Thread Starter 
Thanks for answering all the questions, I hope you don't mind more. So to get things straight resin prevents stiffness which prevents fading? Also, when the jeans are stiffer/heavier, does that create higher contrasts in creases than lighter feeling jeans?
post #8 of 33
No. Resin can be quite stiff and used to simulate the sheen and rigidity of dry denim. But it acts as a protective coating. Resin sprayed and baked jeans will generally fade much slower. See Rag & Bone for examples. It isn't bad. Just very different.
post #9 of 33
There's various types of resin, but the main usage is to work as a seal with the fabric, thus you see it on darker denim to help prevent fading in the wash. So if it's used to prevent fading in the wash... Some brands do use resin for protection AND for a softer finish. Soft denim and/or denim lighter in weight will be harder to crease and fade. Think of trying to crumple silk versus construction paper: which is going to show signs of wear if you crumple them repeatedly? Therefore, denim weight plays a big factor in stiffness and overall fading. Some people will add starch to their jeans for this reason. Contrasting has to do with wear and washing. If I wear the hell out of softer jeans and only do so much with a raw pair, physics will win that round.
post #10 of 33
gees as a jean newbie, learning a lot on this thread...

thank a bunch
post #11 of 33
Thread Starter 
are the levis 514 true raw? because they feel a bit annoying to break into and a lot harder than my slim jim japans. they're softer but i heard rigid scraped means raw.
post #12 of 33 should answer your question. My take is that TRUE raw means never having been washed. If these things won't shrink after washing them the first time like the STF's, I don't consider them to be genuinely raw. Besides, I think some of them have creases already.
post #13 of 33
So to you Raw means unwashed AND unsanfordized?

Besides 501xxs and LVC 501s there aren't many STFs out there, right?

IIRC 514s are raw (with some pre-consumer creasing), but are sanfordized, so they'll only shrink a couple inches.
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post #15 of 33
Thread Starter 
my 514 rigid scraped are stiffer than softer, pre-washed denim but i feel they aren't stiff enough for creasing. it seems like it would be near impossible.
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