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Some stuff is, some stuff isn't. The shirts are getting more and more expensive. Some of the knits are way more expensive (like the Bee or Ijevan) than others (like the Brood or unnamed ones). But it's a lot more palatable to me to spend $400 on a knit than $200 on a shirt.

still though, what's interesting about SS is they could easily leap into the pricepoint of designers like damir, raf, etc but choose to price their clothes more in the range of wings & horns or rag & bone. even $250 for a shirt is around what those latter two brands charge, well below what SS could get away with if they decided to play in the same playground as the uber expensive stuff. well, maybe. i don't know enough about the brand or the industry to say fo sho
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still though, what's interesting about SS is they could easily leap into the pricepoint of designers like damir, raf, etc but choose to price their clothes more in the range of wings & horns or rag & bone. even $250 for a shirt is around what those latter two brands charge, well below what SS could get away with if they decided to play in the same playground as the uber expensive stuff. well, maybe. i don't know enough about the brand or the industry to say fo sho

 

You mean "leap" into their price range, no one buys anything at retail, then sell out at 30-50% off?

 

SS should sell ok at retail although I see a lot of retailers selling it at 50-70% off with lots in stock at the end of seasons (La Garconne is an example). Maybe that's why a lot of stores like SW drop the brand (not popular enough) and the stocklist seems to keep on shrinking.

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LaGarconne sells stuff higher on most of their brands than anyone else...but if you look at SW they always have a large selection for any of their brand.
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You mean "leap" into their price range, no one buys anything at retail, then sell out at 30-50% off?

SS should sell ok at retail although I see a lot of retailers selling it at 50-70% off with lots in stock at the end of seasons (La Garconne is an example). Maybe that's why a lot of stores like SW drop the brand (not popular enough) and the stocklist seems to keep on shrinking.

You're talking about something different. I'm not talking about the viability of increasing prices in 2013, I'm just remarking on the fact that, with their aesthetic and quality, the brand could easily have started at a higher price point but chose to straddle an interesting line between "luxury" and "midrange"
post #3875 of 4823
If they were sold at ln-cc, ssense, mr porter, barneys they'd probably sell at full retail on some of their stuff, at their price point.
post #3876 of 4823
Started when ? Back in the early 2000s ? The playground and the pricepoints were totally different back then so I'm not sure it would've been any more viable.
post #3877 of 4823
whatchoo mean? like, what about the industry in the early 2000s would have prevented ss from entering the market as a luxury brand and not a midrange one?
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I don't know what you mean by luxury brands exactly but that whole distinction between top tier, midrange etc wasn't nearly as developed ten years ago so you can't really use that as a reference. Midrange fashion as we know it today barely existed and fashion brands were overall priced much much lower than they are today, effectively occupying a price bracket close to current midrange labels prices.
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the price for high end brand has gotten ridiculous. i remember when rick dunks used to be $600. givenchy tees cost that much now lol8[1].gif
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I don't know what you mean by luxury brands exactly but that whole distinction between top tier, midrange etc wasn't nearly as developed ten years ago so you can't really use that as a reference. Midrange fashion as we know it today barely existed and fashion brands were overall priced much much lower than they are today, effectively occupying a price bracket close to current midrange labels prices.

Gotcha. Not to drag this out too far, but even if most labels charged the equivalent of "midrange prices" back in the day, i still find it interesting that SS would continue to keep their prices around that level while other brands with a similar aesthetic/quality would raise their prices much higher (like what steveoffice said above)

As I wrote earlier, most other brands in SS's price bracket position themselves as "contemporary" brands-- and while that's a super nebulous term, and it's hard to define the boundary between what's "contemporary," what's "luxury," etc, for me SS occupies an interesting territory where it has all the visual elements of a much more expensive brand at two-thirds the price. And that's kinda cool. Not something I see often.
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rick leathers were 1800, du is rich as fuck now
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Gotcha. Not to drag this out too far, but even if most labels charged the equivalent of "midrange prices" back in the day, i still find it interesting that SS would continue to keep their prices around that level while other brands with a similar aesthetic/quality would raise their prices much higher (like what steveoffice said above)

As I wrote earlier, most other brands in SS's price bracket position themselves as "contemporary" brands-- and while that's a super nebulous term, and it's hard to define the boundary between what's "contemporary," what's "luxury," etc, for me SS occupies an interesting territory where it has all the visual elements of a much more expensive brand at two-thirds the price. And that's kinda cool. Not something I see often.

 

It is also something I don't see often and enjoy quite a bit. The lines are quite blurred with the aesthetics you describe. We're lucky it didn't start with full branding/marketing and ended up selling $800 Cardigans. I read somewhere SS hates consumerism of fashion or something along those lines.

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It is also something I don't see often and enjoy quite a bit. The lines are quite blurred with the aesthetics you describe. We're lucky it didn't start with full branding/marketing and ended up selling $800 Cardigans. I read somewhere SS hates consumerism of fashion or something along those lines.

I really get the feeling Schneider enjoys making clothes when I look at his pieces; I love the fact that it feels like I'm actually wearing something idiosyncratic which provided the designer with as much fulfillment as it does for me...not a sense I get from very many other labels...
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Well, I have some pieces, but certainly not as many as some here, and I've handled a bunch more, including a really awesome blue/teal moleskin jacket from @sipang that I wish I'd kept, since it would fit me now (I was 23 lbs lighter then), and the make is as good as pretty much anything I've handled, excluding the some of the smaller, very expensive, classic menswear brands.  The Paraffin jacket that I have retailed somewhere around $600 (higher some places, a bit lower others), which is unheard of for many designer pieces these days, much less a wool jacket.  

 

Some of his things just won't fit me (everytime I put on a sportsjacket, I feel like I am about to go full hulk on the arms, and I only feel really big when I am in Asia) and some of this thinner knits, while really nice, are just a bit too precious for my personal use, but those things of his that I have and wear, I really like.

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so what's the deal with the @ thing ? is it just an easy link to the member profile or does it send a notification ? because i didn't get a notification just now


I can't wear any of the more recent tailored stuff either, that goes for both the sportjackets/blazers and the coats, but the long structured outerwear stuff he put out around 2006/7 is something of a beauty.
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