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i'll say that serie a is the best league, theres never a huge gap in points between teams and its entertaining to watch inter,roma,juve,palermo,napoli,milan,udinese, fiorentina etc.

I really wanted falcao to go to inter/chelsea, im still a fan of atletico and without a doubt they are now title contenders. falcao's scored 5 (6 if you count a perfectly legal goal that was called off) in 2 games plus the game winner in the europa league match, he is the best striker in the world.

Was good in the mid 90s when we had a live Italian football match each week in the UK. Zidane :bowdown:
post #677 of 3717
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Serie A has been good so far this season. Milan and Inter both look pretty crappy. It may be Juventus' year.
post #678 of 3717
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Was good in the mid 90s when we had a live Italian football match each week in the UK. Zidane :bowdown:
Serie A may be down a bit, but is still very strong.


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Originally Posted by Brian SD View Post

Serie A has been good so far this season. Milan and Inter both look pretty crappy. It may be Juventus' year.
It is good this year; I'm not sure Juve is the team though. I think there are 3, maybe 4 teams equal or better than Juve.
It's still way too early to tell, but I think Inter, Milan, Juve, Napoli, maybe Roma, Udinese, Palermo, Lazio will all be there at the end.
It will be interesting; Inter have a new coach, Milan is old, Juve is young, Lazio will grow, Roma is confusing, Napoli may be too arrogant, Udinese and Palermo may not have enough fire-power.




Not to say any 1 league is the "best", but as the EPL was founded in 1992-93 I looked at the top 5 Euro leagues since that year, plus the well-balanced Brazilian Série A.

The criticism of the EPL as being very top-loaded (the ‘Big 3’) and not great in CL, etc. is certainly true. Really just 1 dominant team.
La Liga is also very top-heavy, with 2 teams, as is the Bundesliga (1.5 teams).
Serie A is divided among 3 teams.
Ligue 1 has the most different winners, but are terrible in CL, etc.
Brasilian Série A has the most variety, and those teams also do very well in international club competitions.

LA LIGA
League winners (5):
Barcelona 9
Real Madrid 6
Atletico Madrid 1
Deportivo La Coruna 1
Valencia 2

League runners-up:
7 different teams

Champions League winners: 6
Champions League runners-up: 3
FIFA Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup winners: 3
FIFA Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup runners-up: 3
FIFA World Players of the Year/Ballon d’Or: 11



SERIE A
League winners (5):
AC Milan 6
Juventus 5
Inter Milan 5
Lazio 1
Roma 1

League runners-up:
6 different teams

Champions League winners: 5
Champions League runners-up: 6
FIFA Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup winners: 3
FIFA Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup runners-up: 3
FIFA World Players of the Year/Ballon d’Or: 10



EPL
League winners (4):
Arsenal 3
Blackburn 1
Chelsea 3
Manchester United 12

League runners-up:
7 different teams

Champions League winners: 2
Champions League runners-up: 5
FIFA Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup winners: 2
FIFA Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup runners-up: 1
FIFA World Players of the Year/Ballon d’Or: 1



BUNDESLIGA
League winners (6):
Bayern Munich 10
Borussia Dortmund 4
VfL Wolfsburg 1
VfB Stuttgart 1
Werder Bremen 2
Kaiserslautern 1

League runners-up:
6 different teams

Champions League winners: 2
Champions League runners-up: 3
FIFA Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup winners: 2
FIFA Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup runners-up: 0
FIFA World Players of the Year/Ballon d’Or: 0



LIGUE 1
League winners (9):
PSG 1
Lyon 7
Olympique Marseille 1
Bordeaux 2
Lille 1
Nantes 2
Auxerre 1
Monaco 2
Lens 1

League runners-up:
8 different teams

Champions League winners: 1
Champions League runners-up: 1
FIFA Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup winners: 0
FIFA Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup runners-up: 0
FIFA World Players of the Year/Ballon d’Or: 1



CAMPEONATO BRASILEIRO SÉRIE A
League winners (11):
Flamengo 2
Palmeiras 2
Botafogo 1
Grêmio 1
Vasco da Gama 2
Corinthians 3
Atlético Paranaense 1
Santos 2
Cruzeiro 1
São Paulo 3
Fluminense 1

League runners-up:
12 different teams

Champions League winners: 0
Champions League runners-up: 0
FIFA Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup winners: 5
FIFA Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup runners-up: 5
FIFA World Players of the Year/Ballon d’Or: 8 (Brazilians playing for Euro clubs)

post #679 of 3717
Honestly, you can't compare the Brazilian league with the European leagues for a multitude of reasons.
post #680 of 3717
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Honestly, you can't compare the Brazilian league with the European leagues for a multitude of reasons.

Obviously not. It was just fun research.
For some reason I had always thought Santos, Flamengo, Corinthians were always dominant, and I was surprised at how many different league winners there have been since 92-93.

Serie A rules! smile.gif
post #681 of 3717
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Serie A may be down a bit, but is still very strong.

I only see Italian clubs in Europe now, but Zidane at Juve was one of the things that made me like football.
post #682 of 3717
Zidane was brilliant.

Stats are boring.
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Zidane was brilliant.

no one did a headkick better...
post #684 of 3717
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no one did a headkick better...

Hey fritzl. smile.gif That was a sad moment. He deserved the title. Good football drama though.
post #685 of 3717
yay, United step on the Stoke banana peel (...like everyone else it seems). Good game.

It helped that United were playing their last choice strikers. But that will happen sometimes due to injury or cards, and clubs need to take advantage of it. Credit to Stoke for doing so.

Stoke for 4th CL spot!
post #686 of 3717
The highs and lows of Mr. Torres -- what can be said that has not already been said?
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I think the biggest news is Arsenal actually won a game. peepwall[1].gif
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The highs and lows of Mr. Torres -- what can be said that has not already been said?

Silly mistake. At least he had a nice looking goal and enough confidence to take that shot. I still think Chelsea should have bought Aguero over him last year.
post #689 of 3717
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Originally Posted by Sir Humphrey Appleby View Post

I only see Italian clubs in Europe now, but Zidane at Juve was one of the things that made me like football.
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Originally Posted by NOBD View Post

Zidane was brilliant.Stats are boring.
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

no one did a headkick better...
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Originally Posted by NOBD View Post

Hey fritzl. smile.gif That was a sad moment. He deserved the title. Good football drama though.
One of the saddest days ever. Sport really suffered that day. Even I will say France deserved it.





Inter are back! (Maybe.)
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Edited by venessian - 9/27/11 at 2:49pm
post #690 of 3717
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Hey fritzl. smile.gif That was a sad moment. He deserved the title. Good football drama though.

oh well, not in my book. italy played a great tournament, so they deserved it.

while, he was on the peak, i was rather not interested in football. so, i'm not the one to judge about his abilities. i never liked him, though. the headkick wasn't surprising at all. fourteen reds in his career is close to world record.

italy is my team, so everything went right, sorry.
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