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post #571 of 3717
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Originally Posted by comeonyouspurs View Post


Oh you Spurs


Currently it looks like Spurs were right to keep Modric and tell Roman to keep his money. That was an ace strike from Modric.
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Originally Posted by comeonyouspurs View Post


Poor kid is washed up and he isn't even 30 yet. The miss completely eclipses his earlier goal in the match.


His confidence is crushed, but it is too early to tell him to hang up his boots and buy a pub. He was one of Chelsea's best players yesterday. We will talk about the miss, but other than that he had a good game. He also had a good game against Bayer Lev.

The link below is to an article that is very harsh on Torres (it is the "Torres is sinking into private hell" article that has been getting a lot of attention). The comments from fans of many teams rip into it and basically echo what I said above. I am not going too far out on a limb here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2038929/Fernando-Torres-sinking-private-hell-open-goal-miss--Martin-Samuel.html
post #572 of 3717
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Originally Posted by DLester View Post



Currently it looks like Spurs were right to keep Modric and tell Roman to keep his money. That was an ace strike from Modric.



His confidence is crushed, but it is too early to tell him to hang up his boots and buy a pub. He was one of Chelsea's best players yesterday. We will talk about the miss, but other than that he had a good game. He also had a good game against Bayer Lev.

 

 

I think it was Modric's agent trying to engineer the move. Similar to Rooney's stupid transfer allegations a window or two ago that were the work ultimately of his money men. When he (Modric) scored he looked absolutely thrilled. It was a bad spell, the whole transfer situation, but it's nice to see the lad back with his head firmly on his shoulders.

 

Maybe I was a bit too harsh for calling him washed up. But no matter how well he played against Man U, they still lost and he whiffed on more than one chance. I think a lot of the media's ire with Torres is that fact that he is the epitome of the modern money game. Player transfer fees and wages being inflated through the roof by a few elite teams, only for many of those players to sit or underachieve (in the context of their asking prices). Is Torres better than many of the world's footballers? Yes. Does he have much room for mistakes when he gets signed for €50 mill? Nope.

 

It's all in his confidence and for some bizarre reason it hasn't been there ever since he's put on that awful blue Chelsea strip. I'd love to see him make a move in the Jan window. Chelsea is not where his mind is at. He may be able to thrive somewhere else, somewhere with a lot less pressure surrounding the club as a whole.

post #573 of 3717
I hadn't actually seen that open-goal miss until Soccerbible posted up on their FB account. MAN. I don't think I could have missed that shot.

Torres was waning his last six months on Merseyside, no? This run at Chelsea is just a continuation, if I am remembering correctly. How long would the general population give him until they do call time on his career? I think a loan back to Atletico in January could work wonders for his confidence.
post #574 of 3717
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Originally Posted by ANIKETOS View Post

Can't believe inter and ac Milan are at one point each !! What bothers me si that media killing inter and gasp and silent about Milan and allegri.

they love to hate inter, and gasperini has to go.
post #575 of 3717
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Originally Posted by grizzlybear View Post


they love to hate inter, and gasperini has to go.

True on both counts, I'm afraid. Also, the Italian media is not exactly unbiased and objective when it comes to AC Milan.
post #576 of 3717
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Originally Posted by DLester View Post


Who are you?

I began following Chelsea back when they had not won shit in 50 years, because some of my friends followed them. At that time no one gave a rip about the club. They were also-rans with a random cup victory here and there and a rep as having a hooligan problem.

A glory hunter would have picked United, Liverpool or Arsenal because those were the hot teams at the time. Instead I went with the losers due to personal connections. Since then I have seen probably 75% of their games and watched them play twice in person.

I admire certain other clubs for various reasons I will not get into because I do not know who the fuck you are, and you have no cred.

Hardly a home and away season ticket holder then.
post #577 of 3717
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Originally Posted by shahanshah View Post


one season ? try 6 going on 7 with no trophy in sight.

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You do realise they have been in the Champions League group stages every season for the last 15 or so? That's quite a good record imo.
post #578 of 3717
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Originally Posted by Sir Humphrey Appleby View Post

Hardly a home and away season ticket holder then.

He lives in Seattle, asshat. I've never even been to Great Britain, doesn't mean I can't support my Gunners

post #579 of 3717
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Originally Posted by Sir Humphrey Appleby View Post


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You do realise they have been in the Champions League group stages every season for the last 15 or so? That's quite a good record imo.

who cares about group stages. do you know what we used to achieve ? when wenger used to spend money on players, develop them, when he used to have tactics, when he used to have a plan A and a plan B? we don't even have a strategy now except trying to play keep-away and even that failed, look at possession % recently it's gone down the drain. you realize it's been a decline for the past 6 years right ? even our purchases have been getting worse, probably correlated with the departure of david dein. we are a for-profit club, nobody cares if we win trophies or not so long as we get that coveted 4th place spot. since 2006, we've made a *net* profit of ~60m in the transfer market and yet look at where we are, it's never re-invested and wenger refuses to buy any worthwhile talent. we get rid of bendar and now have turned into the kind of club bendar should be playing for, that's how you can tell this club is going to hell. Quality players on the cheap that would have fit our team: cabaye for 4.8M. Tiote for 3.2M, several japenese full backs. Saha on a one year contract. Scott parker. All these for pennies in terms of salary too. if you have spent any time watching these players you'd know well they're all better than the trash we've taken on or the current crop of potential failures we have. and money can't be the excuse when we sign arteta for 10m 5 years on 50k+ and that leper yossi who is a useless sack of bones...

Earlier this summer ~
"Imagine the worst situation - we lose Fabregas and Nasri," stated Wenger. "You cannot convince people you are ambitious after that. You cannot pretend you are a big club. A big club holds onto its big players and gives a message out to all the other big clubs that they just cannot come in and take [players] away from you." -- Arsene Wenger

in all honesty, i want us to drop as many points as possible. it's like chemotherapy, lot of bad side effects, but ultimately we get rid of that cancer that is wenger. this is the only way to get him out, he's too arrogant to give up on his retarded philosophy (which he admits he would never try again at a new club should he move on)
post #580 of 3717
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Originally Posted by shahanshah View Post


who cares about group stages. do you know what we used to achieve ? when wenger used to spend money on players, develop them, when he used to have tactics, when he used to have a plan A and a plan B? we don't even have a strategy now except trying to play keep-away and even that failed, look at possession % recently it's gone down the drain. you realize it's been a decline for the past 6 years right ? even our purchases have been getting worse, probably correlated with the departure of david dein. we are a for-profit club, nobody cares if we win trophies or not so long as we get that coveted 4th place spot. since 2006, we've made a *net* profit of ~60m in the transfer market and yet look at where we are, it's never re-invested and wenger refuses to buy any worthwhile talent. we get rid of bendar and now have turned into the kind of club bendar should be playing for, that's how you can tell this club is going to hell. Quality players on the cheap that would have fit our team: cabaye for 4.8M. Tiote for 3.2M, several japenese full backs. Saha on a one year contract. Scott parker. All these for pennies in terms of salary too. if you have spent any time watching these players you'd know well they're all better than the trash we've taken on or the current crop of potential failures we have. and money can't be the excuse when we sign arteta for 10m 5 years on 50k+ and that leper yossi who is a useless sack of bones...

Earlier this summer ~
"Imagine the worst situation - we lose Fabregas and Nasri," stated Wenger. "You cannot convince people you are ambitious after that. You cannot pretend you are a big club. A big club holds onto its big players and gives a message out to all the other big clubs that they just cannot come in and take [players] away from you." -- Arsene Wenger

in all honesty, i want us to drop as many points as possible. it's like chemotherapy, lot of bad side effects, but ultimately we get rid of that cancer that is wenger. this is the only way to get him out, he's too arrogant to give up on his retarded philosophy (which he admits he would never try again at a new club should he move on)

yeah i feel like his best years are behind him, and wenger trying to play bookkeeper isn't what he's there to do.
post #581 of 3717
on another note, I knew this wasn't the case about Cesc but good to see it finally come to an end. Class, indeed.
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Premier League - Cesc wins damages over 'interview'
Tue, 20 Sep 13:15:00 2011

Cesc Fabregas has won an apology and damages from a magazine after he was falsely quoted as claiming Arsenal had little chance of winning silverware.

The offending interview, published in Sport magazine on September 16, quoted Barcelona's summer signing as saying: "I want to be in a club that is able to win the big titles year after year and I don't see that kind of future for Arsenal."

Fabregas quickly took to Twitter to deny criticising his former club and Sport have now admitted that the purported interview did not take place.

A statement read: "On 16 September 2011 we published an article described as an interview with Cesc Fabregas. In fact, there was no actual interview (the player was speaking at two press events) and Fabregas did not say the words attributed to him, including and in particular about Arsenal.

"We were unaware of these matters when we published the article, which was written by a freelance journalist. We apologise profusely to Mr Fabregas for any damage caused."

Fabregas welcomed the news on Twitter, writing: "Got the apology and retraction from that magazine that made up an interview about me. Can't believe some journalists.

"I will also get damages that I will give to charity. Hope it teaches them a lesson. I would NEVER say a bad word about Arsenal Football Club."

http://eurosport.yahoo.com/20092011/58/premier-league-cesc-wins-damages-interview.html
post #582 of 3717
Arsenal score equalizer against .... Shrewsbury?

lol
post #583 of 3717
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Originally Posted by DLester View Post

Arsenal score equalizer against .... Shrewsbury?

lol

the Wengerites will have you know, all is well in the Arsenal camp sarcasm.gif

If we don't thrash Strawberry Town it will be quite pathetic. United already cruising ......
post #584 of 3717
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Originally Posted by Sir Humphrey Appleby View Post



"Chicarito" will shit himself when he goes to Elland Road in three weeks time and gets a few hundred bottles thrown at his bus as will the rest of the snivelling little cunts.
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Originally Posted by Jared7 View Post


Our second team will shit all over scummy Leeds' first 11.
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Originally Posted by Sir Humphrey Appleby View Post


I remember people saying that would happen last time. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif.

So, hows the game working out for you and scummy Leeds?

Oh thats right...

0-3 Half-time

Hahahaha
post #585 of 3717
^ well I figured we would have a United supporter come around to gloat before long. Go ahead, no one has anything to throw back at you these days.
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Arsenal are giving me the "there but for the grace of God go us all" feeling. It could happen to any of the top clubs. It happened to Leeds a long time ago, before my time. I hope they sort it out.

How about this for Arsenal --> Fire Wenger, hire Mourinho. Madness? OR GENIUS?
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