That was my thought when I first put it on. I had the sleeves shortened a touch already, but I think I could have gone with a bit more. Not sure its worth paying for twice though. Maybe I'll get around to it one day.
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Suitsupply NYC - Page 53
Did you get the Sienna? The overall aesthetic is very Polo Ralph Lauren.
I'm 6"8 and all I have tried is the Napoli. The sleeves were always an inch and a half short but my tailor (who is awesome btw!) always is able to get it to work for me. He does have to add an extra button or two to the cuff which I know some peeps on this site cannot fathom (which I could really give two f**k's) but it comes out just nice. I do have monkey arms (which was an awesome asset as a basketball player in college) so most sleeves will be short on me.. but again, they fit nicely and apart from some things that can only be fixed by bespoke or made to measure (i.e the wrinkles around the shoulder blade near the armhole that probably come from an unbalanced jacket) but its 80% good for me which is good enough for me.. I have a couple of Zegna's (fit milano's and fit rom's), Canali's and and a Giorgio Armani (Black Label) and they fit as well as those so no complaints here..
Yes, I did get the Sienna and I think I would get it again. I am particularly fond of the shoulders, as they are very soft. Next to no padding, which creates a nice shape on my build.
Does the edge of the shoulder appear to stay in place, and just below the seam the fabric creases, as you raise your arms? I tried both a 38 and 40 in the sienna last weekend and that crease formed on each arm. Probably just my shoulder construction, but thought I'd ask.
I popped into Suit Supply in Vigo Street in London, to primarily look for Sports Coats (limited to poor selection) since Ede & Ravenscroft was closed by the time I arrived.
Decided to try on a few 40R jackets. I tried:
- Jort
- London
- Sienna
All fitted beautifully, although the Sienna has too high buttoning position to suit my "forward chest" (in the opinion of the SA who looked after me). He also noted that my right shoulder is higher than my left, and that I have a "hollow back". Thus, there Sienna bunches at the back at shoulder blade level. He also thought that both the Jort and London suit me with no tailoring.
I did disagree with the sleeve lengths. All 3 of the above were 1/2 inch too short in the sleeve. The SA disagreed, as he preferred showing more cuff, whereas I prefer the sleeves to end exactly at the wrist-bone.
I did get compliments on my suit [Ede & Ravenscroft RTW] and Linea Maestro dark brown oxford toe-caps [Meermin]
, then I noticed in the mirror that my midnight blue Charles Tyrwhitt tie did look like a CT tie without the jacket, under the harsh glare of the in-store lightning. I also noticed that my hair needed washing; I need a shave; and I forget to wash my face before leaving work - oily sheen on the surface. Plus, I noticed that although I've lost a few pounds (down to 185lbs - I'm 6ft), I still need to tone around my stomach. 
If I was in the market for a suit (which I'm leaning towards, but Sports Coat first), then I'm looking for a Royal Blue, as opposed to a Navy. Not a great deal of variety in the London range, and I'm not keen on the wool / cashmere mix in the Sienna.
As per my original visit, warm, friendly, knowledgeable SAs, who provide honest opinion and feedback. Got talking to one of the SA's about suits in general. He mentioned that the peak lapel was a return to the 20s look (F.Scott Fitzgerald - 'The Great Gatsby'). He also mentioned there is a lot of strong interest in DBs and Double Monks. He tried to convince me to try peak lapels, but I'm strictly standard notch lapels. He also informed me that the Washington line is the most popular SS line world-wide, followed by the Sienna. The London line receives interest in the UK, but isn't really being pushed by SS outside the UK, which is a shame - hence, why there are very few choices compared to other ranges.
If it wasn't for the fact that Ede & Ravenscroft 40R RTW fit me perfectly (although I had the sleeves lengthened 1/4 inch), and I like their mid-weight fabrics, I would probably look to purchase something in the SS London range.
Note: I only tried on jackets this time. I did not try the trousers. Last time I tried the trousers in the 40R London range (alleged 6 inch drop), it felt as though I was scuba diving!

Does the edge of the shoulder appear to stay in place, and just below the seam the fabric creases, as you raise your arms? I tried both a 38 and 40 in the sienna last weekend and that crease formed on each arm. Probably just my shoulder construction, but thought I'd ask.
What that mean Cousin is maybe the armhole is a little different from the way your arm hangs.. not from a pitch issue but just the fact that your arm comes in a different angle from your body that what the arm hole was created.. I find that happens a little bit, not much on some of my suits that have very little padding (for instance some of my Milano models from Zegna)

I popped into Suit Supply in Vigo Street in London, to primarily look for Sports Coats (limited to poor selection) since Ede & Ravenscroft was closed by the time I arrived.
Decided to try on a few 40R jackets. I tried:
- Jort
- London
- Sienna
All fitted beautifully, although the Sienna has too high buttoning position to suit my "forward chest" (in the opinion of the SA who looked after me). He also noted that my right shoulder is higher than my left, and that I have a "hollow back". Thus, there Sienna bunches at the back at shoulder blade level. He also thought that both the Jort and London suit me with no tailoring.
I did disagree with the sleeve lengths. All 3 of the above were 1/2 inch too short in the sleeve. The SA disagreed, as he preferred showing more cuff, whereas I prefer the sleeves to end exactly at the wrist-bone.
I did get compliments on my suit [Ede & Ravenscroft RTW] and Linea Maestro dark brown oxford toe-caps [Meermin]
, then I noticed in the mirror that my midnight blue Charles Tyrwhitt tie did look like a CT tie without the jacket, under the harsh glare of the in-store lightning. I also noticed that my hair needed washing; I need a shave; and I forget to wash my face before leaving work - oily sheen on the surface. Plus, I noticed that although I've lost a few pounds (down to 185lbs - I'm 6ft), I still need to tone around my stomach. 
If I was in the market for a suit (which I'm leaning towards, but Sports Coat first), then I'm looking for a Royal Blue, as opposed to a Navy. Not a great deal of variety in the London range, and I'm not keen on the wool / cashmere mix in the Sienna.
As per my original visit, warm, friendly, knowledgeable SAs, who provide honest opinion and feedback. Got talking to one of the SA's about suits in general. He mentioned that the peak lapel was a return to the 20s look (F.Scott Fitzgerald - 'The Great Gatsby'). He also mentioned there is a lot of strong interest in DBs and Double Monks. He tried to convince me to try peak lapels, but I'm strictly standard notch lapels. He also informed me that the Washington line is the most popular SS line world-wide, followed by the Sienna. The London line receives interest in the UK, but isn't really being pushed by SS outside the UK, which is a shame - hence, why there are very few choices compared to other ranges.
If it wasn't for the fact that Ede & Ravenscroft 40R RTW fit me perfectly (although I had the sleeves lengthened 1/4 inch), and I like their mid-weight fabrics, I would probably look to purchase something in the SS London range.
Note: I only tried on jackets this time. I did not try the trousers. Last time I tried the trousers in the 40R London range (alleged 6 inch drop), it felt as though I was scuba diving!
What did you think of the Jort fit compared to the London?
In truth, no discernible difference in fit. I felt it was more a combination of softer, rounder Neapolitan shoulders on the Jort (although the Sienna has minimal shoulder padding), compared to the London.
My personal preference is the London; however the Jort is equally a good fit. The differences are more what type of shoulder, fabric, weight, and lining. The Jort has horrid pillar-box red lining. Hideous.
Note: the Jort that I tried on was a 3 roll 2.

The Washington was definitely more snug all through the shoulders and body. I had my tailor nip the waist and hips of the Napoli jacket. I wouldn't need to do the same in the same sized Washington. While the website pictures show a similar shoulder construction between the two, I thought the Washington model I tried (this one) felt a touch softer in the shoulders and were laying in a way that I didn't feel like the extra snugness was overly noticeable.
I plan to buy that jacket later in the season. I will definitely buy both the 38 and 40 and see which fits better at the time.
Sorry I can't remember enough to give more detail than that. Perhaps timotune can answer better.
I actually have a Washington jacket and do think the shoulders are quite soft for a "structured" shoulder. The Italia model I also have has a much stronger/structured shoulder for instance. I prefer having lightly padded shoulders as I have a rather small neck and face hence my question on whether the Napoli is stronger shouldered or not.
Thanks for your answer though, it did help. I think I'll just buy a Sienna for my next suit.
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