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post #1786 of 5450
Hi everyone, long-time lurker, first-time poster.

I've just taken the plunge and purchased a Washington and a Havana online. The size adviser recommended a 102L, which I was comfortable with, as I assumed that equated to a 40L, my usual size. However, when the suits shipped they were both listed as 42L, and now I'm confused!

I'm a bit concerned that they're going to arrive too big, especially in the waist. My usual trouser size is 33.

FYI, the measurements I plugged into the adviser are as follows:

Height: 193cm
Chest: 104cm
Upper waist: 89cm
Lower waist: 91cm

Can anyone steer me in the right direction? Many thanks.

P.S. Assuming the worst, does anyone know how returns work internationally?
Edited by white - 3/31/13 at 10:24pm
post #1787 of 5450
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Originally Posted by white View Post

Hi everyone, long-time lurker, first-time poster.

I've just taken the plunge and purchased a Washington and a Havana online. The size estimator recommended a 102L, which I was comfortable with, as I assumed that equated to a 40L, my usual size. However, when the suits shipped they were both listed as 42L, and now I'm confused!

I'm a but concerned that they're going to arrive too big, especially in the waist. My usual trouser size is 33.

FYI, the measurements I plugged into the estimator are as follows:

Height: 193cm
Chest: 104cm
Upper waist: 89cm
Lower waist: 91cm

Can anyone steer me in the right direction? Many thanks.

P.S. Assuming the worst, does anyone know how returns work internationally?

 

Returns are so easy, mate.

 

You put the suits back in the giant boxes they came in, call UPS, and the driver will swing past at a time convenient to you - and they get shipped back to SS in <3 days and they process the refund/replacement then.

 

That whole process is free.

 

When I was in Amsterdam, I had a chat to their IT guy, who was working on a sizing app - and we got talking about the need for accurate sizing and info to be passed on to the customer before ordering to cut back on the number of returns. He quoted me a pretty impressive stat, the exact figure escapes me now, but it was the percentage of repeat customers that return suits is ultra low. Something like <10%. He described the 'order a few different sizes then return the ones that don't fit' mentality of SS as basically an investment in the customer. By the second order, very few items get returned, so they aren't losing out with the cost of return postage. 

post #1788 of 5450
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Originally Posted by rodaman View Post

the store's presentation is great. however, i was disappointed to find out that basically you're buying a suit off the rack. that was the impression i got from the salesperson. 

I'm confused, is this a real comment? When in a physical store you're buying off the rack. Did you think those 200 suits hanging on the wall were just showing details about their bespoke service? Or are you referring to the fact that SS doesn't sell separates?

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Originally Posted by cwoodson View Post

I wear a 38R in the Suit Supply Napoli. Any idea what this corresponds to in the JCrew Ludlow? Also, anyone have experience with their normal vs. slim pants?

I wear a 38R Napoli and like the 39R for JCrew.

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Originally Posted by TimelesStyle View Post

I'd like to ask those who have bought Suit Supply suits how they've held up after a little while wearing. Curious how the fabric has worn so far and how the half-canvased suits have kept their shape. I went into a store today and tried on the London cut and it fit me very well right off the rack; only alteration needed was hemming the pants and letting out the seat a bit (trouser pockets opening up a bit). However it's hard to tell how well they'll wear when just looking at them in the store.

I haven't worn suits in a while and realized that most of my nice ones have gotten too tight in the top block of the trousers because I've been doing more leg exercises and have gotten a bit thicker there. Therefore, I've started thinking maybe my very next suit should be fairly inexpensive while I make sure I'm not going to change much more.

The other question is whether to go with OTR or MTM if I do indeed go with Suit Supply. The London suit I looked at was $469, plus about $30 worth of alterations (not including going to a separate tailor to have the belt loops removed) and MTM starts at $599 according to the website. But perhaps the best bet is leaving the loops in place on the first one, seeing how it goes, and then going MTM on the next if I'm happy with the result.

I've had my 2 SS suits for about 15 months. I wear them once a week or every other week. Wear is fine. No noticeable shininess or buttons falling off or split seems or ripped linings.
That $599 MTM is pretty basic - you have a limited number of fabrics (maybe 20-25ish), and can make about half a dozen size adjustments to the stock pattern.
BTW, don't tell a bunch of dudes about getting thick anywhere.
post #1789 of 5450
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Originally Posted by CousinDonuts View Post


I've had my 2 SS suits for about 15 months. I wear them once a week or every other week. Wear is fine. No noticeable shininess or buttons falling off or split seems or ripped linings.
That $599 MTM is pretty basic - you have a limited number of fabrics (maybe 20-25ish), and can make about half a dozen size adjustments to the stock pattern.
BTW, don't tell a bunch of dudes about getting thick anywhere.

For me the only benefit of MTM (until I read that they base all MTM on one particular cut, and not the London) was that I could have it made from the beginning without belt loops, which would be the most expensive alteration.

And I'm confused, I thought lifting weights and gaining muscle was something men talked about with each other (SF has a whole forum devoted to health/exercise IIRC), though to clarify any confusion I was talking about my legs/glutes puzzled.gif...
post #1790 of 5450
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Originally Posted by TimelesStyle View Post


And I'm confused, I thought lifting weights and gaining muscle was something men talked about with each other (SF has a whole forum devoted to health/exercise IIRC), though to clarify any confusion I was talking about my legs/glutes puzzled.gif...

Talking about lifting is one thing. Walking up to someone like a coworker, or in this case a random stranger, and pointing out that your pants don't fit right because you've been spending a lot of time working on the thickness of your left butt cheek is, well, eek.gif

If someone paints a mental picture about their body, I prefer the description be of someone like Kate Upton. Just giving you shit, but let's keep it to the clothes.
post #1791 of 5450

from the thread here I understand the Napoli fit is their more classic/regular one...

is it still relatively speaking (compared to other brands) a "slim" fit? or is it really a regular fit?

I'm confused and any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks :)

post #1792 of 5450
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Originally Posted by CousinDonuts View Post

Walking up to someone like a coworker, or in this case a random stranger, and pointing out that your pants don't fit right because you've been spending a lot of time working on the thickness of your left butt cheek is, well, eek.gif

I work both butt cheeks equally.

Seriously, though, why clothes do and don't fit (and therefore when OTR vs. MTM are appropriate) has very much to do with one's physique and can often be material in others providing suggestions as to what will and won't work. Seen it here plenty before and doubt it'll be the last time either.
post #1793 of 5450
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Originally Posted by TimelesStyle View Post


For me the only benefit of MTM (until I read that they base all MTM on one particular cut, and not the London) was that I could have it made from the beginning without belt loops, which would be the most expensive alteration.

And I'm confused, I thought lifting weights and gaining muscle was something men talked about with each other (SF has a whole forum devoted to health/exercise IIRC), though to clarify any confusion I was talking about my legs/glutes puzzled.gif...

I was under the impression that getting belt loops removed was rather straight-forward, though I admit, I have never had it done. Is it expensive?

post #1794 of 5450
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

I was under the impression that getting belt loops removed was rather straight-forward, though I admit, I have never had it done. Is it expensive?

The issue, as I understand it, is how the loops are attached because that determines whether a tailor has to remove the waistband. The associate at SS told me that their tailors don't typically do that, so I'd have to take it elsewhere, though I forgot to look at the construction.

I'm fairly certain it's doable, and doable at a relatively reasonable price, but the main question is at what point it's more cost-effective to simply have a MTM from SS since the difference between that and OTR is only about $130 as it is.
post #1795 of 5450
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Originally Posted by TimelesStyle View Post


The issue, as I understand it, is how the loops are attached because that determines whether a tailor has to remove the waistband. The associate at SS told me that their tailors don't typically do that, so I'd have to take it elsewhere, though I forgot to look at the construction.

I'm fairly certain it's doable, and doable at a relatively reasonable price, but the main question is at what point it's more cost-effective to simply have a MTM from SS since the difference between that and OTR is only about $130 as it is.

They told me MTM starts at 1200 (or was it 1500) and typically goes up to over 2k depending on options.

post #1796 of 5450
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

They told me MTM starts at 1200 (or was it 1500) and typically goes up to over 2k depending on options.

Wow, really?? I was looking at their website which states it starts at $599 for the "Blue Line". However perhaps that line isn't a true MTM option.
post #1797 of 5450
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Originally Posted by TimelesStyle View Post

Wow, really?? I was looking at their website which states it starts at $599 for the "Blue Line". However perhaps that line isn't a true MTM option.
I suspect it isn't true MTM. Their MTM stuff is supposed to be fully-canvassed, which puts it up with the Jort/LaSpalla at least.
post #1798 of 5450
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

I suspect it isn't true MTM. Their MTM stuff is supposed to be fully-canvassed, which puts it up with the Jort/LaSpalla at least.

That makes sense. Sounds more like "made to order" and comes with a set amount of alterations included in the price. Honestly, that would be fine with me, seeing as the stock 42r London fits great with the exception of some pulling at the seat and my desire to remove the belt loops and trade them for side tabs (provided there's enough material left over from hemming the trousers).
post #1799 of 5450
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Originally Posted by TimelesStyle View Post

That makes sense. Sounds more like "made to order" and comes with a set amount of alterations included in the price. Honestly, that would be fine with me, seeing as the stock 42r London fits great with the exception of some pulling at the seat and my desire to remove the belt loops and trade them for side tabs (provided there's enough material left over from hemming the trousers).

I ordered a Blue Line MTM, which I have yet to see (it takes ~6 weeks), based off the Napoli cut. From my experience, they only took measurements for my shoulders and arm length, and also trouser length (though I suspect the trouser measurements are for alterations ex post). It doesn't seem like true MTM, but I suspect it's more than simply mixing and matching jackets + trousers – otherwise, I simply don't see how they could give me a jacket that fits in the chest, while having sufficient arm length. All subsequent alterations by Suitsupply are done free of charge.
post #1800 of 5450

I went into the store with the impression that SS is one of the new custom suit places like indochino, enzo, black lapel, mysuit ny etc.

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